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Offline 321BAR

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Re: BF110G
« Reply #60 on: August 20, 2010, 12:39:23 PM »
Yes, I've taken my 110 above 20k. Dove down to 15k after accelerating at 20k so I could make a pass at the 91'st without the escorting 321BAR interfering. After my second pass, 3-4 of his pony's caught me.
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Re: BF110G
« Reply #61 on: August 20, 2010, 12:40:49 PM »
he was light on fuel, i had a full tank

You still would have out climbed him and by doing a spiral climb you're using both your better vertical performance and climb rate to get into position.  

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Re: BF110G
« Reply #62 on: August 20, 2010, 12:51:57 PM »
You still would have out climbed him and by doing a spiral climb you're using both your better vertical performance and climb rate to get into position.  

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hmm....then i cant explain why he kept with me :headscratch:
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« Reply #63 on: August 20, 2010, 01:44:52 PM »
hmm....then i cant explain why he kept with me :headscratch:

He must of had a rather significant energy advantage when he started to follow you up or you misjudged his energy state at the beginning and thought he had less than what he really had. 

Also, while at first he might have been able to stick with you, remember the Bf 110 (C and G) do shed energy rather quickly in the vertical  as they don't retain it very well.  You would have eventually started to pull away and increase the distance seperation.  When it comes down to it, the Bf 110 is just out matched by most fighters.

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Re: BF110G
« Reply #64 on: August 20, 2010, 03:13:57 PM »
Lol BAR, don't be so smug about it. I got a few drones before your boys dragged my down kicking and screaming.
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Re: BF110G
« Reply #65 on: August 20, 2010, 10:59:58 PM »

  Why do you insist on posting such nonsense?

 To compare the firepower of the 110,either of them, to an I16 and say the I16 will outperform them is absolutely wrong.

  You can get lucky and hit the cockpit of any plane and kill it with 1 round but that in no way is an estimation of gun performance.


  BTW,I corrected all the spelling mistakes in your quote,just in case you thought I might have change your words!

Really geez, what a load of malarky.  The 110 will beat the I-16 every single time.
Nem try reading and learning from folks who obviously know more instead of trying to push non-sense.  :huh
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Re: BF110G
« Reply #66 on: August 20, 2010, 11:02:49 PM »
It's just par for the course for Nemisis.  


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Re: BF110G
« Reply #67 on: August 20, 2010, 11:03:11 PM »
He must of had a rather significant energy advantage when he started to follow you up or you misjudged his energy state at the beginning and thought he had less than what he really had. 

Also, while at first he might have been able to stick with you, remember the Bf 110 (C and G) do shed energy rather quickly in the vertical  as they don't retain it very well.  You would have eventually started to pull away and increase the distance seperation.  When it comes down to it, the Bf 110 is just out matched by most fighters.

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Obviously he should have dove away and out ran the 110. :joystick:
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Re: BF110G
« Reply #68 on: August 20, 2010, 11:03:29 PM »

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Re: BF110G
« Reply #69 on: August 20, 2010, 11:12:52 PM »
Did someone say WGR21's?

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Re: BF110G
« Reply #70 on: August 20, 2010, 11:17:14 PM »
Obviously he should have dove away and out ran the 110. :joystick:

Why dive and run?  Without a film to verify for certain but if he had stuck with the spiral climb he would have roped the 110 and gotten the kill.  No need to run, just excercise a little patience and not panic.

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Re: BF110G
« Reply #71 on: August 20, 2010, 11:42:17 PM »

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Re: BF110G
« Reply #72 on: August 21, 2010, 12:17:36 AM »
Why dive and run?  Without a film to verify for certain but if he had stuck with the spiral climb he would have roped the 110 and gotten the kill.  No need to run, just excercise a little patience and not panic.

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i seriously dont get why. it was a slow spiral climb. i should have had him but everytime i looked back he was 500 back low and circling with me. he never had a shot on me though which im thankful for. but i seriously dont get it at all...
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Re: BF110G
« Reply #73 on: August 21, 2010, 12:47:43 AM »
i seriously dont get why. it was a slow spiral climb. i should have had him but everytime i looked back he was 500 back low and circling with me. he never had a shot on me though which im thankful for. but i seriously dont get it at all...

From that description if he had tried to tighten his spiral for the shot he would have most likely gotten into an accelerated stall and spun out, you really had that Bf 110 exactly where you wanted him. 

Curious, what did you end up doing?

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Re: BF110G
« Reply #74 on: August 21, 2010, 01:10:42 PM »
From that description if he had tried to tighten his spiral for the shot he would have most likely gotten into an accelerated stall and spun out, you really had that Bf 110 exactly where you wanted him. 

Curious, what did you end up doing?

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it was a few months ago so i dont remember fully but iirc i just went into an auto climb, out climbed him, and then stalled him then.
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