Is the colors you see the same as the ones I see?

[68ZooM]

Probably the biggest question I have is what I discovered while studying Mythology in Philosophy.


We consider the Greek Gods to be myths, but yet in 700 BCE, civilization actually believed they were real; will future civilizations consider our God to be just a Myth as well? Could we be mistaken?

Topics like this is what leads to great discussions, long ago when things could not be scientifically explained, they were thought of as signs from the varies gods in the heavens, examples..  Thunder, Lightning, Earthquakes and so on, back then all of those events were seen as signs from the gods, but today we are all know what makes these occurrences happen thru the teachings we receive growing up, Fasinating stuff

[Flipperk]

Topics like this is what leads to great discussions, long ago when things could not be scientifically explained, they were thought of as signs from the varies gods in the heavens, examples..  Thunder, Lightning, Earthquakes and so on, back then all of those events were seen as signs from the gods, but today we are all know what makes these occurrences happen thru the teachings we receive growing up, Fasinating stuff

Exactly, but in fear of getting this thread locked we should leave God at that 

What about the universe question Zoom that I brought up a couple of posts ago? I would LOVE to discuss that one.

[68ZooM]

you know, that subject has always raised my curiosity, i was told by a teacher long ago that if a person sat down and thought about where the universe ends it would drive a person crazy from the thought process, personally i don't think it does end, its infinite  we only know what our probes have found with the data sent back, and i don't know if we even have the engine technology that would push a probe into infinity, the interesting thing is how many years would this take to find the end of the universe,  I'm not that scientific of a person, but i just can't believe we are the only ones that occupy this universe, how ever small or Infinite it may be, i don't think we will ever know in our lifetime

[maddafinga]

Heres one thing that always makes me think about .... who came up with all the names for colors, animals, everything we see?

All I know is that they obviously named oranges before they named carrots.

[mensa180]

No, we see the same colors, except color blind people who get colors confused or melded.  The wave lengths of light aren't going to change person to person.

[Flipperk]

No, we see the same colors, except color blind people who get colors confused or melded.  The wave lengths of light aren't going to change person to person.

But the eye makeup can

[mensa180]

If the universe is expanding, how can it be infinite? If it is limited, what is outside?

Expanding is a bad word, because it raises the inevitable question "into what".  Stretching is a better term.  It would be impossible to know what the universe, if it was which I don't think it is, expanding into, because it would be another dimension.  We cannot see outside the realm of space and time.

[Tigger29]

In a Universe that is infinitely large.. anything AND everything.. regardless as to how improbable.. is happening.. at once.  There can be no other way.

Ponder about that statement...

[mensa180]

But the eye makeup can

Color blind people being the exception, no.  I don't refute that there are those who see blue and purple as the same, or green and brown, etc... But on the whole of people seeing totally different colors and just being raised to cope... No.

[mensa180]

In a Universe that is infinitely large.. anything AND everything.. regardless as to how improbable.. is happening.. at once.  There can be no other way.

Ponder about that statement...

Why?  Space doesn't follow the light speed rule, it can expand as fast as it likes.  Size of the universe is no indication of age, it could be infinitely large and a picosecond old.  The universe, as far as we can tell, isn't really expanding at a "speed" at all.  There needs to be another point of reference, a distance.

edit:  Of course I am not infallible nor is everything set in stone.
edit2: A useful site.  http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=274

[Flipperk]

Expanding is a bad word, because it raises the inevitable question "into what".  Stretching is a better term.  It would be impossible to know what the universe, if it was which I don't think it is, expanding into, because it would be another dimension.  We cannot see outside the realm of space and time.

Again you can not stretch unless there is room to stretch. By saying the universe is stretching, expanding, or getting bigger\smaller begs the question that if the universe is already infinite then how can it expand.

[68ZooM]

Its expanding according to what our technology has found so far, as our technology improves so will the expanding of the universe and all that it holds, as we'll learn more then than we know right now, face it we only know what our  present technology has taught us and shown us

[mensa180]

Again you can not stretch unless there is room to stretch. By saying the universe is stretching, expanding, or getting bigger\smaller begs the question that if the universe is already infinite then how can it expand.

I am not assuming the universe is infinite, read the posted link for an explanation better than I can word.

[mensa180]

Its expanding according to what our technology has found so far, as our technology improves so will the expanding of the universe and all that it holds, as we'll learn more then than we know right now, face it we only know what our  present technology has taught us and shown us

I never said we knew more than what our technology has shown us... that is delving into the realm of religion and not science.

[bravoa8]

The universe dosen't end. How could there be an end what would happen if you went to the end?