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Offline FiLtH

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Local rather than Global ENY
« on: August 21, 2010, 12:18:37 AM »
   How about ENY affecting zones rather than whole arenas. Most times it isnt the fact that there are 30 more people on the team, its that they all are at the same base.

Way it is now:

Arena: Bish 70  Knit 65  Rook 115

Base A1: Bish 0  Knit 30  Rook 65

Base A35: Bish 0 Knit 30  Rook 10

Even though the 10 rooks were willing to leave the hord and find a fight elsewhere, they are penalized with ENY,even though they face huge odds at A35.

If it were a local ENY, the knits would face an eny hit at A2 as the rooks would at A1.


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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2010, 12:27:08 AM »
+1  I have always favored an idea like this.
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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2010, 01:17:15 AM »
That dose make better seance to do it that way.  +1
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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2010, 01:50:18 AM »
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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2010, 02:16:24 AM »
Hmmm. What would happen if one bish decided to go to A1? ENY Sky rockets for rooks and nits? Idk about this idea, it seems buggy.

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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2010, 03:30:22 AM »
What is to stop me from upping my 5.0 ENY ride from a base slightly offset from where the horde is to avoid the high area ENY at A1? Buggy indeed.
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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2010, 08:23:48 AM »
Local superiority is what tactics are about. ENY is about evening the sides, not trying to spread out the fight.

2nd the basic idea does not even work, because the imbalance happens after you already have the plane.


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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2010, 11:05:39 AM »
Local superiority is what tactics are about. ENY is about evening the sides, not trying to spread out the fight.

2nd the basic idea does not even work, because the imbalance happens after you already have the plane.


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but eny doesnt really even out the sides.  I have seen many, many , many times, when knights have more people and yet we are being losing base after base. because not enough people are in the air.  I really suspect that some people will switch to another country then go to sleep or whatever. I know you already said you wont kick out the sleepers, but how about not counting them as far as eny goes.  you have no activity for 20 min then you wont affect eny.

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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2010, 11:22:14 AM »
but eny doesnt really even out the sides.  I have seen many, many , many times, when knights have more people and yet we are being losing base after base. because not enough people are in the air.  I really suspect that some people will switch to another country then go to sleep or whatever. I know you already said you wont kick out the sleepers, but how about not counting them as far as eny goes.  you have no activity for 20 min then you wont affect eny.

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You do realize that not county the sleepers would tend to make the imbalance larger?

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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2010, 11:31:05 AM »
but eny doesnt really even out the sides.  I have seen many, many , many times, when knights have more people and yet we are being losing base after base. because not enough people are in the air.  I really suspect that some people will switch to another country then go to sleep or whatever. I know you already said you wont kick out the sleepers, but how about not counting them as far as eny goes.  you have no activity for 20 min then you wont affect eny.

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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2010, 12:10:41 PM »

2nd the basic idea does not even work, because the imbalance happens after you already have the plane.

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You know though, there are a lot of pilots that take off still, even when their side has 4:1,5:1,8:1 odds at a fight?  It would at least cap the endless flow of Spit16/P51D horde off with a discretionary reason to reconsider ones choice of fight.  You could make the local eny requirements more lax than the global ones, but if there is an 5:1ish fight, a local eny could help improve gameplay in that quadrant to some degree.

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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2010, 12:12:44 PM »
Local superiority is what tactics are about. ENY is about evening the sides, not trying to spread out the fight.

2nd the basic idea does not even work, because the imbalance happens after you already have the plane.


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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2010, 12:28:53 PM »
I have always been in favor of Zone (local) ENY.

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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2010, 12:57:05 PM »
You know though, there are a lot of pilots that take off still, even when their side has 4:1,5:1,8:1 odds at a fight?  It would at least cap the endless flow of Spit16/P51D horde off with a discretionary reason to reconsider ones choice of fight.  You could make the local eny requirements more lax than the global ones, but if there is an 5:1ish fight, a local eny could help improve gameplay in that quadrant to some degree.


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Re: Local rather than Global ENY
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2010, 02:33:11 PM »
Sorry. Disagree. You cap the launch of numbers from a field and you cap fun for a lot of people. Its bad enough you cant get into an arena and then when you do you want to cap taking off from a certain field? Do you really think that makes sense as a business plan?

Besides its the defending from the hordes trying to hoard fields that is the greatest fun. I thought you learned that already?  :devil
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