Have you ever heard of this 109 variant i haven't ????

[BulletVI]

Have you ever heard of this Bf - 109 Variant as i havent i have only heard of the 109e to the K4 as the last variant  





I found it as a model kit when i was searching eBay for a new model kit to build

( Hitech's going to hate me now as if its done some combat service in WW2 Bf-109 Fans will want it if its any good  )

[Stampf]

Bf109T

Designed for carrier use.  Used as land based fighters. That particular one is from 10./JG11 Hegoland Staffel.  The pilot was shot down and killed by Bud Andersen.

First B17 kill of the war was by a Bf109T.

It's an emil with a tailhook, not late war.

[Tordon22]

It's an emil with a tailhook, not late war.

I'll pass.

[BrownBaron]

I'll pass.

I'd like to see a German carrier based plane.

Bullet, if you know anything about the 109's you would be able to tell that it is quite early in the evolution of the air frame. Clipped wings, stubby nose, non-hemispherical spinner, non-Erla Haube canopy, horizontal stabalizer support struts, wing mounted cannons, shallow oil cooler, and an early supercharger intake.

EDIT:Schpelling

[BulletVI]

I'd like to see a German carrier based plane.

Bullet, if you know anything about the 109's you would be able to tell that it is quite early in the evolution of the air frame. Clipped wings, stubby nose, non-hemispherical spinner, non-Erla Haube canopy, horizontal stabalizer support struts, wing mounted cannons, shallow oil cooler, and an early supercharger intake.

EDIT:Schpelling

Yes i did notice that BrownBaron but it was its designation that threw me as all main Luftwaffe planes are like Bf-109d - Bf-109K4 and so forth so it being a Bf-109T-2 kinda threw me  So it must be the Bf-109E or F with upgraded engines and wep for the potential carriers the German Navy requested but never received due to some decision by Hitler ????  

[BrownBaron]

In the future, keep in mind that Google is your best friend for gathering information.

[BulletVI]

In the future, keep in mind that Google is your best friend for gathering information.

I believe we should google it as if it was also land based but carrier borne capability's. But may have seen action from land bases. Thus we may get it in the game be cool like

[BrownBaron]

I believe we should google it as to if it was land based with carrier borne capabilities. It may have seen action from land bases. Thus we may get it in the game. That would be cool like

I don't think it would really matter whether or not it was ever used in land based operations, it would still make a nice addition to the carrier planes.

[BulletVI]

Got this so far off of GOOGLE

http://www.adlertag.de/flugzeuge/bf109teng.htm


Damm this link states that the arresta hook and catapult points where removed as the German Carriers where cancelled

http://www.worldwartwobooks.com/product.php/4544/messerschmitt-bf-109-t-luftwaffe-s-naval-fighter


Quote From

http://www.angelfire.com/oh5/pmodels2/mybf109t2.html

 "Messerschmitt Bf 109 T since 1937, developed for service on the sole German aircraft carrier - the Graf Zeppelin. Version f had its origin in Messerschmitt Bf 109 E. In order to shorten the start and landing the span of the wing was extended from 9.87 m to 11 08m, this being the most characteristic feature of this version. The wing wasn't projected folding. The aeroplane was driven by the Daimler Benz 601 N engine, which was currently built into the Bf 109 E-7, from which the Bf 109 T manufactured in series production originated The engines mounted into the Bf 109 T had however a modified bonnet of the air inlet into the compressor. Version Bf 109 T-1 was destined for service on an aircraft carrier (this never occurred For this purpose it was fitted out with hooks for catching the rope of the catapult and tailhook Version T-2 was destined for operations from land bases. The outfit from T-1 was not used with this version. Since 1943 the Messerschmitt Bf 109 T-2 was fitted with the GM-1 powerboost system. In total 70 pieces of Messerschmitt Bf 109 T built in series were manufactured. Bf 109 T machines were for the first time engaged in combat in the frame of the I./JG 77 and Jagdgruppe Drontheim units in Norway during 1941 Just to these aeroplanes fell victims the first Boeings B-17 (RAF) shot down over Europe. Bf 109 T machines were used with number of units (mostly training ones), but the most interesting from these was the combat Jagdstaffel Helgoland (later 11./JG 11) operating from the North- German island Helgoland Due The length of its two landing runways didn't even reach 800 meters Most successful fighter piloting the Bf 109 T was Erich Hondt, who claimed four of his fourteen victories while flying the Bf 109 T"

[Stampf]

...or you could have just read my post.

And you won't see it in game regardless of it's combat record.  The T is not modeled and the emil template does not work.

[BulletVI]

...or you could have just read my post.

And you won't see it in game regardless of it's combat record.  The T is not modeled and the emil template does not work.

Ah cool cool but hey would be nice addition tho

[Guppy35]

Seems like I remember reading that the surviving 109Ts were de-navalized' and finished out their careers in Norway.

[Bino]

Because of the extended-span wings (and spoilers), the T-1 and T-2 could make very short take-offs and landings  These were used by I./JG77 at Sola and Herdla in Norway and by 11./JG11 on Heligoland in the North Sea.  Basically an E-1 (DB601A engine) with E-3 guns and those longer wings.  Likely to be a bit heavy, in fully navalized form.

[BMathis]

CV based German plane?  That would be fun.

[BulletVI]

Yes but they where de navalised according to the info