Early war set-up

[Guppy35]

I SMELL A RAT!    (No 190A-5 stretch, no Hurri-II stretch then)

They were mostly Hurri Is in malta, resuplied with very very few IIcs, mostly Spit Vs were all they had left flying outa Malta in 42.  Should be Hurri Is and Spit Vs from Malta, unless you're thinking about adding a full squadron of 190A-5s along with each squadron of Hurri-IIcs.   

You are thinking 1941 for the Hurri Is on Malta.  The Hurri IIB and IIC were the 1942 birds in the MTO with some IID thrown in. Obviously the majority of fighters on Malta by 42 were Spitfire Vc.

[Brooke]

Oh, and if you could field mod my tiger to have

Well, actually, we worked it out with HTC to put in the little-known Sea Tiger.  Just as there were naval versions of various aircraft such as the Sea Hurricane and the Seafire, there was the Sea Tiger -- basically an amphibious Tiger tank with a speed in the water of about 45 knots.  It also had a tail hook for some obscure reason. 

[Masherbrum]

I don't think that any 190's were in the Siege of Malta or Operation Pedestal.

Things are not finalized yet.  A very tentative list is:

Hurri IIC, Spit V, Seafire II, Marlet (F4F), Mosquito, Liberator, Boston III
109F, C.202 and/or C.205, 110C, Ju 88, Ju 87

Eliminate the C.205's.   They didn't even start hitting Operational Status until Feb or March of 1943 IIRC.    Pedestal was in August of 42, keep it close to accurate.   

[Devil 505]

I am curious if people would consider flying the Hurricane IIC from carriers with the difficulty in landing without a tail hook.

I'll give it a shot. If the Phandango was any indication, I'll be dead before i can pull the trigger. Never mind dropping the hook.

[Nemisis]

If I can land a B-25 on a CV, rearm it, and get it back in the air, then the Hurri IIC pilots should be able to opperate them from a CV.

[Fencer51]

Eliminate the C.205's.   They didn't even start hitting Operational Status until Feb or March of 1943 IIRC.    Pedestal was in August of 42, keep it close to accurate.   

205s were in "Fire over Malta" and will not be in this scenario as you pointed out, they were not deployed.

[Krusty]

I hope there's a major tweaking of the setup rules...


Last time you got 1 life in a 109F... If you lost the plane you were stuck in a 109E the entire rest of the frame.

Only problem is, new AH update, new terrain, new 109F graphical update... Some sort of glitch made 90% of all 109s hotpadding at a single field (we had about 20-30 of us on the taxiways) stutter just as we were about to touch down.

Not on the way in, not on final, only as we were about to touch down *WHAM* we all dinged props (at different times). Decent 109 pilots, too. Not MA newbies. Folks that new how to fly.

So the end result is that 90%+ of the axis were flying 109Es against SpitVs and Hurr2Cs, all of which mercilessly pounced on us from well above and major numbers advantages.

It was wholly unbalanced after that bug removed the 109Fs from the frame.*




* = I think this was frame 1. I was a walkon for 2 out of the 4 frames.


P.S. As general note (some of you probably already know) our Seafire has an identical speed chart to the SpitV, just has 2x the cannon ammo and a little extra weight for the tail hook.

[Fencer51]

No 109Es are planned to be included.

[Vudu15]

How bout a Brewster  Im just kiddin. Man just in the works and Im already excited.

[Brooke]

How bout a Brewster  Im just kiddin.

Nemesis's Sea Tiger has a Brewster launch rack.

[Enker]

So, the Sea Tigers in this scenario will have been captured by the Allies and thus carry brewsters?

[Brooke]

So, the Sea Tigers in this scenario will have been captured by the Allies and thus carry brewsters?

No, Germany had a pact with the Finns to get Brewsters via the Finland->Bermuda Triangle->Morocco->Algergeria supply route.  In fact, the common explanation of the reason for Operation Torch was merely a ruse -- the real reason was to sever this supply line of Brewsters for use on Sea Tigers.

[fudgums]

the 262 was present for this right?

[Nemisis]

Don't wory Vudu, I'll be happy to carry a squadron of airsupport with me. Just be on the look out for bomb carrying planes so I can get you up in time to escape the blast radius.

And Brooke, have our engineers worked out the kinks with the death ray, or am I going to have to use the lazer cannon for this one?

[Fencer51]

No, Germany had a pact with the Finns to get Brewsters via the Finland->Bermuda Triangle->Morocco->Algergeria supply route.  In fact, the common explanation of the reason for Operation Torch was merely a ruse -- the real reason was to sever this supply line of Brewsters for use on Sea Tigers.

Look.. I cannot keep up with all these changes to the OOB.  So are the Sea Tigers WITH or WITHOUT brewsters.. and did you decide on the AR234s...