30 & 20mm aircraft guns

[Pigslilspaz]

you get the same firing time approx with the 109's 30mm im guessing. Same gun, and it has only 65 30mm

[Ack-Ack]

Not being able to hit a single bomber, with 120 30mm rounds, when you can choose any angle you wish to attack from in a 163 is kinda bad. An average pilot should get at least 2 of the 3 in a group. No true marksman about it. May be wrong, but I doubt it.

Not being able to hit a single large twin engined fighter stalled out and hanging in the sky while fighting two other planes is also kind of bad.   


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[Nemisis]

So AKAK, are you saying that a shot from 3 or 9 o'clock on a moving target is just as easy as one from 6 o'clock? I guarantee thats not true.

[SEseph]

So AKAK, are you saying that a shot from 3 or 9 o'clock on a moving target is just as easy as one from 6 o'clock? I guarantee thats not true.

I find it easier. I'm horrible at straight shots for some reason. 

That also makes you wrong seeing as you made no distinction in who it's easier for etc. etc.... 

[Nemisis]

I see what your saying SEseph. Alright AKAK, I give you that one.

[Ack-Ack]

So AKAK, are you saying that a shot from 3 or 9 o'clock on a moving target is just as easy as one from 6 o'clock? I guarantee thats not true.

Yes it is.  You know why?  It present more of a target area to hit.  When pilots are taught gunnery they are taught not to fire at the bandit from the dead six position but to approach and fire at an angle to the six position.  This is because approaching at an angle presents more of a target profile then the dead six position.  Same principle when firing at a plane that presents a bigger target area, whether the bandit presents it in a banked angle or you're approaching from an angle such as attacking from either left (9 O'clock) or the right (3 O'clock).

The mistake that I am seeing with your posts is for some reason you some how expect gunnery to be nothing more than pointing nose at target and firing and that's all you have to do.  That is the furthest thing from the truth, gunnery takes as much practice as ACM does.  Like ACM, it isn't something that you will expect to improve on the more sorties you take.  It takes practice and learning the principles of A2A gunnery and more practice.  The good shots didn't get there just by flying a lot of sorties, they practiced and practiced and practiced again.

Last night when we ran into each other, did you notice where I landed my single burst on your plane and its immediate effect?  Those were just my .50s hitting, if I had tossed in a 20mm round or two I would have scored an instant pilot kill.

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[Nemisis]

I hadn't thought about that. Would I be correct in assuming that target dimensions and speed will largely affect the difficulty of the shot.

I know gunnery takes more than pointing your nose at a target, I'm not an idiot AKAK. If anything, gunning in a tank would have driven that lesson home.

[Imowface]

Yes, closing speed does effect how hard it is to make a shot ie: you have less time to react and aim if you are closing from a 6 o'clock position on a buff that is doing 250 mph, and you are doing 500mph, this would general be the ideal speed to attack something, as it would be like you are only going 250mph towards a stationary object, but say you are coming in at 2:30 at the same speeds, you are now moving towards the bomber at 750mph, so you have 1/3 of the time to react as opposed to moving at a dead 6, does that make seance, I know what I'm talking about but I may not have worded it very well

[Rino]

How about they just learn to conserve ammo.  What's next...combat autopilot that flies, fights and shoots for us while we just sit back and watch?  Or how about auto-landing systems?

     Mx Squawk:  Auto-land very rough!
     Mx Fix:  Auto-land not installed in this aircraft 

[W7LPNRICK]

Yes, closing speed does effect how hard it is to make a shot ie: you have less time to react and aim if you are closing from a 6 o'clock position on a buff that is doing 250 mph, and you are doing 500mph, this would general be the ideal speed to attack something, as it would be like you are only going 250mph towards a stationary object, but say you are coming in at 2:30 at the same speeds, you are now moving towards the bomber at 750mph, so you have 1/3 of the time to react as opposed to moving at a dead 6, does that make seance, I know what I'm talking about but I may not have worded it very well

This(closing speed)and a lack of time in the 163, is what kills me. Don't worry, I have no ego about it. I would like to be a better shot, so I'm practicing, learning critically, analyzing my method, and weighing outcomes. Definition of insanity= Attempting the same exact methodology, over and over, and expecting a different outcome. As long as you're making adjustments in your method and testing it's effect, you're gonna gain ground...as long as there is some logic in your new method. 

[Imowface]

The best way I can think of to help you learn in the 163, is just go offline, and keep on diving in on the drones, try as best you can to come in from a high 12, and also dive underneath them and come up and take belly shots, other then that, I have never flown the 163 in the MA so good luck and I hope I have helped you a little 

[bagrat]

waht happened to my precious 30mm it used to be 1 round to the nose or fuselage would blow em up, now im lucky if it kills the engine. At that Ive hit spits dead on only to see them take no damage what so ever

[W7LPNRICK]

waht happened to my precious 30mm it used to be 1 round to the nose or fuselage would blow em up, now im lucky if it kills the engine. At that Ive hit spits dead on only to see them take no damage what so ever

Now it makes sense. I've experienced the same thing. I've even seen the sprites from fuselage hits in my K4 & nothing, not even smoke?

[BrownBaron]

Now it makes sense. I've experienced the same thing. I've even seen the sprites from fuselage hits in my K4 & nothing, not even smoke?

waht happened to my precious 30mm it used to be 1 round to the nose or fuselage would blow em up, now im lucky if it kills the engine. At that Ive hit spits dead on only to see them take no damage what so ever

My K4 is killin' as well as ever. I rarely get a dud, or something like a dead-stick from my taters.