What? No one has noticed the new Mossie?

[Tupac]

I doubt that it would be perked, down low it has no special characteristics and at the high altitude it takes to be able to outrun anything it will still be slower than most planes you will find at those altitudes.
K4s, 190D, P51, Typh/Temp, Spit14, Spit16, P47N and M, Yak9U, Ta152, the F4U1a and the F4U4 all have a speed advantage over the mossie at altitude, these are also some of the most common planes in LW.
I imagine it will still have a very strong following, but will probably have an ENY of 10-15.

Also keep in mind that at the 20k+ altitude it is difficult to bomb, a change of 1 foot from calibrated altitude could make you miss the target completely, i believe this could factor in to any perk pricing.

edit: Please give us the tse-tse too.
Sincerely,
Tupac

[Lusche]

I hope not.  Seems like that would be a bird where one pilot, one plane would be plenty.

I don't see any reason why it should be treated much different than a Arado 234.

[W7LPNRICK]

I think the next thing that should be added is the Junkers Tri-Motor as a 40ENY Troop Transport.

Give the Germans an airdrop option (Since they did it first....)

Germans also did a first jump w/o parachutes  ....late in the war with materials in poor supply, they were said to have held guns on troopers forcing them to jump into pasture fields without chutes.

[Kazaa]

I hope not.  Seems like that would be a bird where one pilot, one plane would be plenty.

I respectfully disagree. I'm not going to fly all the way up to 18K and over just to stay alive long enough for me to drop one 4,000lbs bomb.

[Karnak]

I doubt that it would be perked, down low it has no special characteristics and at the high altitude it takes to be able to outrun anything it will still be slower than most planes you will find at those altitudes.
K4s, 190D, P51, Typh/Temp, Spit14, Spit16, P47N and M, Yak9U, Ta152, the F4U1a and the F4U4 all have a speed advantage over the mossie at altitude, these are also some of the most common planes in LW.
Tupac

It will flat out, out run a Tiffie or a Spit 16 at altitude.  Not sure about the Yak.  The Tempest, Fw190D-9 and F4U-1 will all have very narrow intercept windows.  All of those aircraft mentioned will have a very hard time intercepting it if they are not pre-positioned at altitude before the Mossie crosses their path.  Even the Me163 will be unable to intercept before bombs are released if you are reacting to it showing up on radar.


I would be surprised it is not perked.  This is one of the ultimate bombers of WWII.

[lyric1]

Cool Long over due.

[Plazus]

Yak9U's performance suffers above 17K. If the Mossie XVI will achieve 400+ mph at 27K, only a small handful of prop planes will be capable of catching it. Jets wont have a problem. However, if any of the high alt prop planes have an altitude advantage on the Mossie XVI, then the Mossie is toast- having nothing to defend itself with.

In consideration of the Mossie's survivability, it all really boils down to two things:

1. What altitude the Mossie XVI is flying at, and its airspeed
and
2. How prepared is the enemy opposition? Are they at altitude and in a position to intercept?

We can only sit and wait as HTC sends us the new update. I personally would like to see an option for formations. This would allow extra ord and the ability to cause some damage. A single Mossie with 6x500lb (3000lbs) bombs wont do much damage with level bombing at 25K (unless of course it is porking a base with pin point accuracy). It takes a little over 2000lbs of ord to drop one hangar. One lone Mossie will only be able to knock down one hangar. However, the single Mossie will have the flexibility to dive bomb the troop barracks, fuel, and ammo bunkers with measurable success. With formations, a flight of Mossies will be able to drop a few hangars in one or two passes.

It will be interesting to see how the AH pilots use the XVI tactically.

[bagrat]

Germans also did a first jump w/o parachutes  ....late in the war with materials in poor supply, they were said to have held guns on troopers forcing them to jump into pasture fields without chutes.

wait what, i dunno about all that. I hear they were pretty smart folks an jumpin outta a plane without a chute is not

[BrownBaron]

Yak9U's performance suffers above 17K. If the Mossie XVI will achieve 400+ mph at 27K, only a small handful of prop planes will be capable of catching it. Jets wont have a problem. However, if any of the high alt prop planes have an altitude advantage on the Mossie XVI, then the Mossie is toast- having nothing to defend itself with.

In consideration of the Mossie's survivability, it all really boils down to two things:

1. What altitude the Mossie XVI is flying at, and its airspeed
and
2. How prepared is the enemy opposition? Are they at altitude and in a position to intercept?

We can only sit and wait as HTC sends us the new update. I personally would like to see an option for formations. This would allow extra ord and the ability to cause some damage. A single Mossie with 6x500lb (3000lbs) bombs wont do much damage with level bombing at 25K (unless of course it is porking a base with pin point accuracy). It takes a little over 2000lbs of ord to drop one hangar. One lone Mossie will only be able to knock down one hangar. However, the single Mossie will have the flexibility to dive bomb the troop barracks, fuel, and ammo bunkers with measurable success. With formations, a flight of Mossies will be able to drop a few hangars in one or two passes.

It will be interesting to see how the AH pilots use the XVI tactically.

Where are people getting figures like 400+ mph at altitude? This sounds completely ludicrous for a mid-war prop plane.

[Tupac]

They should put it in the game as a non-perk aircraft and add a small price if deemed neccesary.

[Lusche]

This sounds completely ludicrous for a mid-war prop plane.

Let's just start with the fact that it's not an mid-war plane at all...

[Plazus]

Where are people getting figures like 400+ mph at altitude? This sounds completely ludicrous for a mid-war prop plane.

The XVI is actually a later war variant. If you look on the front page pictures, you will see six exhuast stubs. This may indicate a 2-stage supercharged Merlin engine. If that is the case, we can expect excellent high speed performance as Karnak had mentioned earlier in this thread.

They should put it in the game as a non-perk aircraft and add a small price if deemed neccesary.

Um yes... thank you for stating the point of the discussion.

[Lusche]

It will flat out, out run a Tiffie or a Spit 16 at altitude.  Not sure about the Yak.  The Tempest, Fw190D-9 and F4U-1 will all have very narrow intercept windows.

To highlight the intercept problem: Just think about how difficult it is already to catch Ki-67's doing ~330 mph at "only" 20k (unless you happen to run across them at altitude by chance or good planning). Now put 7k altitude and 70 mph on top of that. And now that we are back to small dar circles (hooray!), a Mossie with a carefullychosen route can be quite elusive to many a would-be interceptor.

[TexMurphy]

It will be interesting to see how the AH pilots use the XVI tactically.

Suicidal divebombing from 25k is my guess....

[Plazus]

Suicidal divebombing from 25k is my guess....

  Well we do have the Lanc-stuka. What might we have next? A Moss-stuka? Hehehe.