Jabos in an 8th AF setup...

[kilo2]

We should have 152s. H-0s began operations in fall 44

[Krusty]

Preproduction testing was done on less than 20 models of the Ta152, and there's no guarantee any of those saw combat considering the PRODUCTION models only 12 were fielded after January of 1945.

No need for the 152. Dora climbs better and dogfights better, and is faster down low on the deck. Up until 20K the Dora is really the plane to be in. Above that... well above that is another matter, but the 152 is pretty darned rare in WW2.

[kilo2]

Preproduction testing was done on less than 20 models of the Ta152, and there's no guarantee any of those saw combat considering the PRODUCTION models only 12 were fielded after January of 1945.

No need for the 152. Dora climbs better and dogfights better, and is faster down low on the deck. Up until 20K the Dora is really the plane to be in. Above that... well above that is another matter, but the 152 is pretty darned rare in WW2.

Well there were more than 12 h-0s and h-1s. Before January there was a handful. We really need a plane that can fight well above 20,000 considering every plane I saw was 27,000 plus. Nov the few that were built began combat operations.

[Spikes]

No need for the 152. Dora climbs better and dogfights better, and is faster down low on the deck. Up until 20K the Dora is really the plane to be in. Above that... well above that is another matter, but the 152 is pretty darned rare in WW2.

Deck doesn't matter. Fight is at 30-35K and a 262 barely stays in the air at that alt. I was at 29K and had ponies screaming down on me.

The allies know this and that's why they send their buffs in the stratosphere.

[DrBone1]

No need for the 152. Dora climbs better and dogfights better, and is faster down low on the deck. Up until 20K the Dora is really the plane to be in. Above that... well above that is another matter, but the 152 is pretty darned rare in WW2.

      i am not sure i agree with you on that 

[Bannor]

Hats off to the P51 pilots. They were disciplned on staying up in low orbit. My 262 was hard to handle up there. And of course pilot wound was only damage I took. 

[Krusty]

I totally agree that some LW planes have a very hard time at alt. 99% of the time that's where I am, sucking air in a dora that can't fly level at 30k. My group this time ran into MORE than a few 109G14s and K4s that appeared to come in from 35k with ease. Last frame 109Ks over 30K decimated an entire P-47 strike package (2, possibly 3 entire squadrons of us).

However, the Ta152 was really a blip on the radar as far as plane development goes. Only one gruppe (12 planes) was officially assigned to fly them. Over 70 were built, but they never got from the production parking lots to the front line units what with the end-of-war chaos and all.

Let's put it this way: 10x more P-47Ms were flown (officially) than Ta152s. We don't have them in here, do we? For good reason, they weren't really part of the setup.

If you really want more high-alt planes, petition for a greater percentage of 109Ks, less G14s, to represent the G6/AS's, the G-10s, the G-14/AS's that would all have had higher-alt capabilities. They would be far more representative.

[DrBone1]

I totally agree that some LW planes have a very hard time at alt. 99% of the time that's where I am, sucking air in a dora that can't fly level at 30k. My group this time ran into MORE than a few 109G14s and K4s that appeared to come in from 35k with ease. Last frame 109Ks over 30K decimated an entire P-47 strike package (2, possibly 3 entire squadrons of us).

However, the Ta152 was really a blip on the radar as far as plane development goes. Only one gruppe (12 planes) was officially assigned to fly them. Over 70 were built, but they never got from the production parking lots to the front line units what with the end-of-war chaos and all.

Let's put it this way: 10x more P-47Ms were flown (officially) than Ta152s. We don't have them in here, do we? For good reason, they weren't really part of the setup.

If you really want more high-alt planes, petition for a greater percentage of 109Ks, less G14s, to represent the G6/AS's, the G-10s, the G-14/AS's that would all have had higher-alt capabilities. They would be far more representative.

ok i gotcha now 

[Vulcan]

I totally agree that some LW planes have a very hard time at alt. 99% of the time that's where I am, sucking air in a dora that can't fly level at 30k. My group this time ran into MORE than a few 109G14s and K4s that appeared to come in from 35k with ease. Last frame 109Ks over 30K decimated an entire P-47 strike package (2, possibly 3 entire squadrons of us).

However, the Ta152 was really a blip on the radar as far as plane development goes. Only one gruppe (12 planes) was officially assigned to fly them. Over 70 were built, but they never got from the production parking lots to the front line units what with the end-of-war chaos and all.

Let's put it this way: 10x more P-47Ms were flown (officially) than Ta152s. We don't have them in here, do we? For good reason, they weren't really part of the setup.

If you really want more high-alt planes, petition for a greater percentage of 109Ks, less G14s, to represent the G6/AS's, the G-10s, the G-14/AS's that would all have had higher-alt capabilities. They would be far more representative.

Ta-152's is about as representative as JABO's on 8th AF raids and B17s/B24s escorted over germany by tempests and spitfires. I notice the allies failed to put up enough B17s, B24s, and zero A-20's this frame. It's somewhat frustrating be LW and searching for non-existant bombers. If this was simply going to be a fighter vs fighter setup someone should change the description.

[Bino]

I know I'm grumpy, but I really hate seeing the Allies use Jabos during 8th AF FSOs...
  

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