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Offline bloom25

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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2000, 09:13:00 PM »
Pappy, from what I hear both cards are performing very well.  Drivers for both are still too new to get a really good idea as to which is really faster though IMO.  

As for FSAA, it is an awesome feature that creates stunning 3-D images.  The problem that I can see is the associated performance hit when using it.  A 2x FSAA pass at 800 x 600 would require the video card rendering a 1600 x 1200 image.  At 4x you would need to do 3200 x 2400.  I doubt any video card currently available can do 4x FSAA at 800 x 600 and still have a playable framerate for graphics intensive games.

If I had to choose between the GeForce 2 and Voodoo 5 I think my decision would be largely based on price and quality.  It's also good too see some competition for Nvidia again, as this should lower video card prices.

 

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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2000, 09:23:00 PM »
Camel, I have an AL440LX motherboard.  It can't go faster than 66 Mhz FSB, so I can't overclock my 466 the conventional way.  (There is a program called SoftFSB which works via software, but I have yet to try it.)

Since you have 100 MHz RAM I don't see any reason why you couldn't.  I guess the question I have for you is do you need to risk burning out your Celeron to get a couple FPS more.  Your system may also become less stable if you go too high.  I suppose if you have a good cooling setup and recent backups in case anything goes wrong, you could try going to 72 Mhz FSB.  If that is stable, maybe try one more notch faster.  I personally am pretty happy with my computer right now, so I'm not going to risk messing it up.  

Mandoble - Glad to hear it helped!  Try 32bit color, I doubt you will lose many fps (if any).  Trust me, this game looks a lot better at 32 bit.

 

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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2000, 03:49:00 PM »
If I had to choose between the GeForce 2 and Voodoo 5 I think my decision would be largely based on price and quality.  It's also good too see some competition for Nvidia again, as this should lower video card prices.

Hold that thought I just cancled my order for the 5500 as I just became aware of the press release that 3dfx has delayed shipping 2 weeks due to some bug issue.

Although they did credit my account and cancel my order even though their policy says they don't, I am compelled to now end my relationship with 3dfx and move on to other graphics card makers.

To me service is important but so is longevity and performance and with this new delay and a now june 6th release, unless its delayed further of course, I just can't justify taking up for them any longer nor will I ever buy another card from 3dfx.

This delay will cripple their status enough for them to falter with further developement, or remain a company that will be there for the long haul to back up their cards, drivers are everything nowadays.

I may not jump right on the GTS but I will string my old card out a bit longer as of now until I see what pops up this summer or I may grab one of the many low buck cards out there to tide me over.

Good bye 3dfx and your slow moving competition because if this doesn't kill you then I guess the NV20 will and I for one ain't getting stuck with a 300 dollar no support havin card.

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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2000, 02:53:00 AM »
 hi,
    both the geForce 2 and V5 should be great. Thresh at FiringSquad just completed
H2H benches with the latest drivers.
    In OpenGL, which WB3 apparently uses,
the nod goes to the geF. But it is only a small advantage.
    In D3D, the V5 has a commanding lead in image quality. My order for the V5 stands,
guess i have a bit more patience than Pappy.
There are some screenshots at simhq.com, especially GPL at 1024x768 4xFSAA which will give you an idea of what the V5 should be like. The V5 is sophisticated enough that it treats each frame differently, making screenshots a bit unrepresentative. Btw, Pappy's criticism that complained about a shortened product life applies to both cards.
The thing that makes me wonder is this: both are slow in games that make massive use of 32 bit color; but flight sims tend to be quite limited in color. Since this reflects RL experience, i am not sure how much this limitation will affect flight sim guys.
   Anyway, i have been to way too many 3d websites; both are fine cards. The geF2
screenshots are sweet. But my dime is on the V5. I am more than a bit tempted to wait and get the V5 6000. It, and the 64 meg geF2, should show up in July, my guess is that the geF2 will be under 500 somewhere, while 600
will be a hundred more at about $550.

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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2000, 03:18:00 PM »
Bloom25, the G2 and V5 use two different ways of doing FSAA: one is by creating a higher resolution image and scaling down, which is what the G2 does; the other is to create multiple images and average out, which is what the V5 does.