I HATE Dr1s

[Kuhn]

Cant wait till the frenchy rides show up.     

[SCTusk]

I also dislike the little pest when it's flown by someone capable and experienced, because unless you are similarly tooled up it means almost certain death. I've been unable to find a counter 1v1 co-alt in the Camel, the Dr1 dances around just outside your reach and eventually pulls in behind. You can re-roll the dice using the vertical for awhile but once at low alt your only real chance is low speed scissors. Unfortunately though the Dr1 stallfights better than anything. So you're utterly depending on the other guy making a mistake... and as he's the one enjoying himself it's far less likely.

Maybe some sort of reverse perk system where the more capable players can't access the triplane? Or a humiliating announcement whenever someone above a certain rank gets a kill in a Dr1...

"PLAYERHANDLE was victorious yet again in his rinky dink noob ride (yawn)

 


 
 

[LLogann]

I certainly don't fly WWI much at all, but I too, with limited knowledge, clearly see the advantages it has.  

BUT.....  Isn't the highest K/D ratio still the D7?

EDIT:  Just looked it up..... WHOA, forget that, the DR1 is double the next best.  

[Mano]

I have been flying the camel lately and I have to say fighting a Dr1 down low on the deck is an almost impossible no win scenario Seņor.
Higher up......say 7 K or more you have a better chance, but alt advantage is your only real chance of winning the fight.
My strategy is to peck them to death from above    ....... a stab here, vator there, a PW, a couple holes in the wings, ect.
Victory can be achieved, but you have to be patient and careful not to pull too hard on the stick during any tight maneuvers or you pull off one or both upper wings.
I have done that more times than I would like to admit.   

I hope we see some new BnZ planes in the near future.

Good thread,

<S>
Mano

[Lusche]

I hope we see some new BnZ planes in the near future.

The domination of the Dr.I is to a large part result of the special combat environment in AH's WW1 arena. Very low numbers and lack of combat options result in a series of duel-like low altitude 1v1 dogfights for the most part. And that's were a Dr.I excels. When the arena was still full of people, the D.VII fared much better, because there were more opportunities to play it's strengths and don't play the Dr.I's game.

[LLogann]

QFT             The D.VII used to have the K/D that the DR1 has now. 

The domination of the Dr.I is to a large part result of the special combat environment in AH's WW1 arena. Very low numbers and lack of combat options result in a series of duel-like low altitude 1v1 dogfights for the most part. And that's were a Dr.I excels. When the arena was still full of people, the D.VII fared much better, because there were more opportunities to play it's strengths and don't play the Dr.I's game.

[dog1]

The d7 can spank the dr1 in a low alt fight..... so can the Camule.....its just harder to do in the Camule.  The French planes will just bring the BOOM&ZOOM weenies and a whole new 'wine' to the table. I'll be waiting with cheese and crackers as they plummet from the sky   

[SCTusk]

lol Wormz I don't think you are the right man for the job (conversely) when it comes to making combat comparisons - based on the fact that you can pretty much take down anyone in anything  What I mean to say is, you probably don't get a balanced impression of the relative strengths and weaknesses of one a/c versus another in typical combat, you'd have to go up and spank yourself to get that (and some of us would pay to see that fine display - you don't have a twin brother by any chance I suppose?).

Those of us mere mortals lower down the food chain get a much better picture and the data supports the general consensus; all things being equal the Dr1 rules. So, many choose it as their primary ride, even those who's obvious ability suggest they could do very well in other a/c. What's needed then (in the absence of rectification of the FM or introduction of other a/c) is a ruthless campaign to slander and shame them into changing their ways    Or maybe it's ok to use whatever (game) tactic you can to gain victory.... I'd be just as happy with that consensus, in fact it might lead to a more authentic 'feel' to the place; whining about alt monkeys, gang bangers and HO shooters? Gimme a break, who started that rubbish? If a couple want to go off somewhere quiet and make love that's fine by me, but until real bullets come out of the screen and do actual physical damage I'm happy to take whatever anyone dishes out within the scope of the game.

So in conclusion I'm ok for one thing or the other... top guns either need to lose the Dr1's or give the rest of us the go ahead to drop this pretence of 'gentlemans' rules'. I don't mean we should stop being friendly about our endeavours, quite the opposite; just stop being unfriendly (and hypocritical) about our tactics.

 

[dog1]

  Tusk!  and sorry, no twin brother... It would be fun if some how the top dr1 guys , or top Camule guys had to fly other rides. I forced my self to learn each plane and enjoy each for what it iz.I died a lot doing that. Yes, the dr1 spanks the other three pretty much all the time. The pilots level of skill in said dr1 determines how severe that spanking iz.I think when more planes are added, the arena will be a whole new ball game. The dr1 will get picked and flamed as the newer planes boom&zoom it to death. The dr1 hot shots will either learn to cope, or just not fly any more. I cant wait to get the B&Z boys down on the deck and smoke um..... by Camule ,dr1, or what ever i feel like flying.

 The beauty of the arena is that it's still so new. I wish more peeps would take the time to learn the planes, and really push their A/C skills.Some of the 1v1's I've had in there have been the absolute best.I  every one who ups a funky little fabric covered plane and gives it his best shot. The guy who keeps upping to the better stick. The guy, who with a little help, gets better each week. And the top sticks who help the noob try to get better.

 WW1 may never become a huge arena, and that may be a good thing. Till new planes are added...... dr1 is the uber ride.If you dont fly the dr1...let the dr1 stick call u an alt monkey.... stay on top and smoke him 
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[Kuhn]

The d7 can spank the dr1 in a low alt fight..... so can the Camule.....its just harder to do in the Camule.  The French planes will just bring the BOOM&ZOOM weenies and a whole new 'wine' to the table. I'll be waiting with cheese and crackers as they plummet from the sky   

There are a couple French rides that BnZ quite well. I was thinking more in the line of the Nieuports . No Bnz Tactics work well with those models. BRING ON the Nieuport  17.

[Mano]

Who started the rumor about the French Planes?

 

[dog1]

Kuhn......................... ...

[Mano]

That's like inviting someone over to have a Banana Split



 and just when their mouth starts watering.............

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.......you inform them you just ran out of ice cream.


  

[meandog]

The domination of the Dr.I is to a large part result of the special combat environment in AH's WW1 arena. Very low numbers and lack of combat options result in a series of duel-like low altitude 1v1 dogfights for the most part. And that's were a Dr.I excels. When the arena was still full of people, the D.VII fared much better, because there were more opportunities to play it's strengths and don't play the Dr.I's game.

LOL Lusche...as I read the forums I notice you have usually got a kinda of sort of got an opposite side taking to everything. It's been a while since I have had a chance to fly in any arena but I was there from the start in WWI and with more peaple in the arena just means I could land alot more kills every sortie b4 fuel ran out in my dr1. It could be asked from anyone in the arena that I have no prob nosing my dr1 into any multi con cloud. At the start it was nothing to land 15 kills on a 25% fuel load. Well...assuming ya make it out of the swarm of bullets first.

As some knows...I have learned the camel and d7 with some decent kills. Bring on some B&Z and they can die as well....or better yet I just join up with worm and we will learn the new crates and start killing with them. LOL...been so long I got to relearn everyting anyway.

[dog1]

LOL Lusche...as I read the forums I notice you have usually got a kinda of sort of got an opposite side taking to everything. It's been a while since I have had a chance to fly in any arena but I was there from the start in WWI and with more peaple in the arena just means I could land alot more kills every sortie b4 fuel ran out in my dr1. It could be asked from anyone in the arena that I have no prob nosing my dr1 into any multi con cloud. At the start it was nothing to land 15 kills on a 25% fuel load. Well...assuming ya make it out of the swarm of bullets first.

As some knows...I have learned the camel and d7 with some decent kills. Bring on some B&Z and they can die as well....or better yet I just join up with worm and we will learn the new crates and start killing with them. LOL...been so long I got to relearn everyting anyway.

 YEAH MAN!