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Offline icejaff

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Spitfire 16
« on: September 12, 2010, 08:17:54 PM »
I can't play online yet I am considering buying it tonight but the spitfire16 isnt a "noob" plane, if it gets the job done which is kill you then it cant be that bad.
Pretty simple if you cant beat em join em, or own them in something different.

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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 09:27:54 PM »
I can't play online yet I am considering buying it tonight but the spitfire16 isnt a "noob" plane, if it gets the job done which is kill you then it cant be that bad.
Pretty simple if you cant beat em join em, or own them in something different.

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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2010, 12:31:09 AM »
...if it gets the job done which is kill you...

I highly disagree, most of the time I see them they fail.

People call it a noob plane because it is very easy to fly, not because it's the best. And plus, it's the pilot that matters not the machine.
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2010, 07:55:02 AM »
The Spitfires are great planes. Fly what you want and be good at it.  :aok











If anyone says I once said spits are great planes.....I'll deny it.  :P
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2010, 10:52:25 AM »
icejaff,

The Spitfire is indeed a great airplane. An aircraft capable of matching just about any plane in the game in a 1v1 if flown well. However, it is their reputation in AH that is questionable. Majority of newer players and/or people who don't know how to fight tend to fly it. Because you are new, I recommend taking some time by flying the various Spitfire models first so you can get a feel for the fights. Once you're comfortable, you can start flying planes like the F4U, 109, 190, P51s, and the rest of the planeset.

If you really really want to challenge yourself, fly the P47. From my experience, the P47 is quite possibly one of the most, if not THE most, challenging aircraft to master in game (followed closely by with the P38). It is outclassed in almost all categories except for high speed handling, firepower, and ruggedness.

So pick a plane, fly it for a tour or two, then try something else!
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2010, 05:14:37 PM »
The Spit 16 is the most capable plane in the game.  It climbs very well, it accelerates very well, it has good speed, it retains "E" very very well, it can roll *better* than the 190's (because it does it very well within a larger speed band), and it turns good too.  Oh, it can carry 1k worth of ord too, although most of the AH spit dweebs forget that and use ti as a fighter.  Its only real weakness is it locks up a wee bit at high speed dives.  Some will say that is a "weak" plane and it cant take damage, but in most situations the Spit16 is quick enough it does not stay in a gun sight very long to begin with so the point is moot, imo.

The vets who fly that thing ought to be ashamed of themselves, the challenge in that thing is minimal.  Hence, it is the "gamers" choice. 
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2010, 05:34:42 PM »
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2010, 05:44:46 PM »
The vets who fly that thing ought to be ashamed of themselves 


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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2010, 06:03:08 PM »

The vets who fly that thing ought to be ashamed of themselves, the challenge in that thing is minimal.  Hence, it is the "gamers" choice. 

It's a challenge to be successful in any plane, regardless of what plane you fly.  Maybe some day you'll learn that instead of whining about someone's plane choice because you feel it's not challenging enough for someone to fly.


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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2010, 09:07:32 PM »
Panty waste!   All of you!   ;)

Funny how you guys jump on the bandwagon.  Disagree with the statement that the '16 is the most capable plane in the game all ya want, but show me another plane that can do what the Spitfire 16 does as well as it does across the board.

and Bronk... no one was crying, I was just stating an opinion.  If that is all you have to say than perhaps you should shut your pie hole.  Add something constructive.     
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2010, 09:46:52 PM »
Panty waste!   All of you!   ;)

Funny how you guys jump on the bandwagon.  Disagree with the statement that the '16 is the most capable plane in the game all ya want, but show me another plane that can do what the Spitfire 16 does as well as it does across the board.

and Bronk... no one was crying, I was just stating an opinion.  If that is all you have to say than perhaps you should shut your pie hole.  Add something constructive.     

A Spit VIII can.  Most folks seem to forget the VIII has more fuel so sometimes the XVI seems to turn better.  Get them at equal fuel and give it a try.  That full span wing makes a difference.  And to be honest, I love finding Spit XVIs 1 on 1 in the 38G.  outside of the guys who have put some time in it, I feel like I'll get the Spit XVI everyt ime even in a slow turn fight as that clipped wing will drop faster then the 38G wing will.

What folks seem to forget is that the real Spitfire was easy to fly.  Considering there was a war on, and getting pilots into combat fast was a big  deal, it was a great advantage to have a bird that made an average pilot better.  No glory in dying in a harder to fly bird in a real war just to prove you can.


I think that's where it gets to be such an anti-Spit whine.  New guys take it cause they can feel successful in it faster.  Vets who take it can dominate.  Some of us prefer early or midwar birds and the challenge of that.  It doesn't mean everyone needs to.  And since none of us are really dying and the planes are cartoons, what does it matter? :)
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2010, 10:27:25 PM »
A Spit VIII can.  Most folks seem to forget the VIII has more fuel so sometimes the XVI seems to turn better.  Get them at equal fuel and give it a try.  That full span wing makes a difference.  And to be honest, I love finding Spit XVIs 1 on 1 in the 38G.  outside of the guys who have put some time in it, I feel like I'll get the Spit XVI everyt ime even in a slow turn fight as that clipped wing will drop faster then the 38G wing will.

What folks seem to forget is that the real Spitfire was easy to fly.  Considering there was a war on, and getting pilots into combat fast was a big  deal, it was a great advantage to have a bird that made an average pilot better.  No glory in dying in a harder to fly bird in a real war just to prove you can.


I think that's where it gets to be such an anti-Spit whine.  New guys take it cause they can feel successful in it faster.  Vets who take it can dominate.  Some of us prefer early or midwar birds and the challenge of that.  It doesn't mean everyone needs to.  And since none of us are really dying and the planes are cartoons, what does it matter? :)

Sure, the Spit8 can out-turn it in an ever so slow and as tight as can get turn fight, but the 16 can just reverse roll right out of there and out accelerate, out climb, and is faster than the 8.  The turn radius of them both is close enough to negate an argument either way, just like the comparisons between the Spit 8 and Spit 9.       
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2010, 05:15:53 AM »
Panty waste!   All of you!   ;)

Funny how you guys jump on the bandwagon.  Disagree with the statement that the '16 is the most capable plane in the game all ya want, but show me another plane that can do what the Spitfire 16 does as well as it does across the board.

and Bronk... no one was crying, I was just stating an opinion.  If that is all you have to say than perhaps you should shut your pie hole.  Add something constructive.     

More  :cry?

The spits have 2 weaknesses than can be successfully exploited if you look for them instead of whining.

1. Horrible over the nose view.
2. They retain E well ...as in they do not scrub it off as well as some other AC.

Now I'll leave it to you to figure out how to use those tid bits... if you stop whining that is.
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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2010, 05:39:09 AM »
I'm not bothered when I see a Spit 16 coming at me. Win or lose it at least means I'm likely to get a fight, rather than the typical MA tactic of "fast pass then run or zoom".

What you fly in the MA has less bearing on how you do than how you fly. If you fly a "difficult" plane but make sure you stay in situations where you outnumber the enemy you can score well just by picking, gangbanging, vulching etc. The only skills you need are SA and gunnery.  I have more respect for a Spit 16 pilot who takes me on 1v1 than the BnZ types who only engage when they have virtually no risk of getting shot down.

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Re: Spitfire 16
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2010, 06:38:20 AM »
but the 16 can just reverse roll right out of there and out accelerate, out climb, and is faster than the 8.     


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