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Offline JOACH1M

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« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2010, 01:14:10 PM »
I just bursted out laughing about make 1 wing of a squad, to late now
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« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2010, 02:00:25 PM »
why dont u just calm down, an go take a ride in the cool new mossie.... :devil
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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2010, 03:16:53 PM »
I once asked ranger what his combat jumps were. He said Afghanistan and Bosnia.  I never spoke to him again.  What does Sftu mean ranger, please spell it out if you have a ounce of metal. 

Now this is a basic thread. Has to do with the having fun. When the only fights on the map have three or four v thirty.  Sort of lame.  Yes multiplayer got it. So what are the options.  Head to an empty arena.  Switch sides. Fight piecemeal.  Nah.  As stated earlier it would appear the knights just don't have the singular drive the other two countries do.  It is odd how the personalities have migrated.
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« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2010, 03:45:31 PM »
    Those of you that always complain about people playing/flying together in a massive multiplayer game need to just stick to offline missions where you will be happier. 

I wonder more and more about this myself. If 30+ folks can get organized and up as a unified group, something that's pretty realistic, what's the gripe again?

We have the duelling arena for those who want the 1v1 combat, but honestly I've had all kinds of different fights since coming back: intercepting the lone buff formation headed for the CV, hitting 1v1, 2v1, 1v2, etc just away from the main fight, manning an ack to defend from a horde, being part of a horde defending from a horde, joining a mission to take a base, porking (or trying to  :pray) a field that's launching a horde to try and save a base. I mean all options are already there, so where's all the whining coming from?

The worse part of flying AW right now is getting killed because I took the time to check with someone in a 1v1 to see if they WANTED help, and managing to give up whatever advantage I had because I was busy chatting. I'm really getting tired of trying not to step on others' toes, it's time for me to just go out, fly, and kill (or try to  :pray) whatever I come across. It is a COMBAT sim after all.
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« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2010, 06:18:57 PM »
I haven't read all three pages of this but I personally love diving into a horde in my  :airplane:  (pony) and stirring up the trouble pot. At least until baddies come in over my head. When I am able to get away and see about 10+ with steam coming out of their cockpits and chase after me, my goal was achieved  :neener: :rock


Course asuming they catch me, its fun avoid all 10 why they are fighting to see who gets to kill me is pretty fun too  :joystick:
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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2010, 07:21:33 PM »
I once asked ranger what his combat jumps were. He said Afghanistan and Bosnia.  I never spoke to him again.  What does Sftu mean ranger, please spell it out if you have a ounce of metal. 

Now this is a basic thread. Has to do with the having fun. When the only fights on the map have three or four v thirty.  Sort of lame.  Yes multiplayer got it. So what are the options.  Head to an empty arena.  Switch sides. Fight piecemeal.  Nah.  As stated earlier it would appear the knights just don't have the singular drive the other two countries do.  It is odd how the personalities have migrated.

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« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2010, 07:36:41 PM »
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« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2010, 08:11:35 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2010, 08:52:51 PM »
I'd rather see hoardes then no planes at all. dar bar breeds dar bar= action and kills to be had. If you don't like masses of people go to WW1, AvA, early war or midwar.  :salute
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« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2010, 09:26:20 PM »
I'd rather see hoardes then no planes at all. dar bar breeds dar bar= action and kills to be had. If you don't like masses of people go to WW1, AvA, early war or midwar.  :salute

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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2010, 09:49:29 PM »
I rarely go to camped spawns but after reading this thread i even upped a few times at a darn good camp just to feel your pain!

 knocked my numbers down a good bit but i didn't even whine once,,, waited to see if anyone else said something but nobody did,,, i felt justified!
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« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2010, 09:50:59 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2010, 11:19:36 PM »

 :cry


Sorry to be a jerk and edit your post. My suggestion to you:

You need to learn to adapt to the game. The gameplay is what it is. Nothing more, nothing less. Over time, gameplay evolves as the player base evolves. If it offends you that you are constantly getting horded, perhaps you should try doing something else instead of flying into it? Like bombing? GVing? There are other aspects to the game other than fly around getting ganged and whining about it. Otherwise, learn to skirt the edges of the horde. Lure one or two guys away from the horde so that you can manage them on more equal terms. If the whole horde engages you, fight them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What have you got to lose? NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If anything, you can laugh your butt off as 12 guys dive in on you, trying to shoot you down as you dodge all their bullets for 60+ straight seconds.

Remember something. Your cartoon lives are endless. Just reup another plane and fight them again.
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Re: Yet Another Horde Thread
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2010, 10:08:01 AM »
I have noticed the same MA change in behavior of late. It seemes to be squad dominated. The replies about getting organized or shut up, or similar, would actually seem reasonable but I will make a case for the original poster's point.

As a game, it is only going to be successful if everyone playing has fun. If folks aren't having fun, they'll give it up. Getting organized is a great strategy to improve scores and achieve objectives but it frustrates the unorganized. That is important when you realize that the all of the customer base can't be as organized as some. Organizing yourself into a squad and learning to fly with them, takes a bigger time commitment than learning to fly your plane and hopping into the action. Many can't put in that kind of time. I also disagree that this organized behavior is for those without skill. I think it's just the opposite. I've spent many an hour getting my butt handed to me by the AKs, the muppets, The Few, etc. Hardly skilless lemmings.

Flew for 2 hours yesterday morning in LW orange with 275 people in the arena and got 1 kill. Single planes ran. People only engaged if they had 2 or three squaddies with them. Logged on later and the only action was furball with about ten unorganized individuals fighting a squad of Me-163s. After an hour of running, and dodging, and watching "joe-blow as landed 6 kills in a Me-163" messages, I just logged.

AH is becoming a team sport. Soon only the teams will be left.

That may be fine, and I don't think rules changes should be employed to "correct" it.  But I think the game is more fun when the MA is statistically random in it's activity, pilot skill, game play. The team order that is evolving is eliminating the randomness, and what results is large areas of inactivity, or large areas to overwhelming odds.

That kind of play, if consistant, will drive away single players. 

The only real solution is for the squads to exersise a little restraint. You don't need to be told what an unfair, un-fun fight is. Just avoid doing it. After all, you are organized enough to control the action. The choice is yours.  :salute







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