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Offline LePaul

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« on: September 04, 2001, 10:03:00 PM »
Any card that needs power beyond the AGP slot strikes me as way cool.  So far, I've been playing offline and really to not see much a frame hit if I run FSAA at 2x or 4x.  But wow, what a gorgeous picture...with FSAA off, I'm doing about 20ish for frames (P3 550 w/ 384mb ram).

Im downloading the latest 1.04 drivers now, any suggestions?

Looking forward to seeing how this performs near smoke, etc

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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2001, 10:46:00 PM »
There are a lot of other independent driver modifications. Most have no real impact on frame rate. I have found that the x3dfx drivers add a setting for v-sync that trades frame rate stability for max peformance:
i.e. if it is enabled, I get 25 to 37 fps in 2x FSAA (mostly at 37 until near bases or smoke), whereas I get 25 to 70 fps with v-sync disabled (almost any variation in control inputs and terrain causes frame rate to change from its normal value of 52 fps). The Voodoo seems to run faster at either 1024x768 or 1280x1024 than at any lower resolution. 2x fsaa doesn't seem to cost too much fps, but 4x just doesn't cut it for me in AH (though I agree it sure is beautiful).

Try this address if you don't mind messing with betas:
 http://pub43.ezboard.com/bx3dfx

The x3dfx 1.08.00 beta works great for me, but the current 1.08.02 drivers aren't supporting 32bpp color in 3dfx. Hopefully, within the week the 1.08.03 beta will come out and regain the compatibility of 1.08.00 while retaining the new 1.08.02 features.

e-mail me if you have any questions about settings, I have tried them all in my quest for superior AH image quality and frame rates. I don't have time right now to list my current settings (and I am running a mix of 1.08.00 and 1.08.02).

Generally, the 1.04 or 1.04.01 beta from 3dfx work great. If you don't have any compatibility issues, you will probably be just as well off using those drivers. You just don't have the ability to tweak as many settings.

Oh, there is an exe that was made by 3dfx to enable the overclocking setting in the tools window. It automatically comes with the x3dfx drivers, but if you want it separately, I can email you a copy.

I personally don't use the overclocking. Any speed which was stable, was too low to make any noticable differences.

You will find the primary limit of your frame rate is your cpu. Voodoo 5500 works much better with faster processors. Mine runs AH at about twice the speed as my dad's (he as celeron 600 MHz). I am probably going to go to a PIII 1 GHz as soon as the prices roll down enough. I am hoping to get steady 50 to 70 fps with 2x fsaa.

P.S. I forgot to mention: the AGP setting is about useless. The Voodoo 5500 AGP is really a PCI card in disguise. You will notice that the framerate is not affected at all by the AGP setting even when disabled, the card always works at a PCI 66 MHz (same speed as AGP 1x). No big loss though, I never saw AGP 4x on my old card have any significant impact on framerate either.

[ 09-04-2001: Message edited by: streakeagle ]
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2001, 10:46:00 PM »
Why on earth did you get a Voodoo5...

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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2001, 04:47:00 AM »
Rendar - you've got to see it yourself to understand... Frame rate isn't everything. Especially, if it stays above 25FPS all the time :)

I'm tinkering with the idea to pull my Radeon out of the box and plug the V5 back in (I just kept it)  :)

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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2001, 10:53:00 AM »
I've always liked the 3DFX/Voodoo cards since you didn't have to wander everywhere, everyweek, hunting for new drivers.  Several friends of mine have had various nVidia based cards and they must have zillions of versions of drivers.

The voodoos were never the fastest, yet not the slowest.  They are, however, the most solid.  That's why I opted for it, after reading rave reviews of it from people I feel know what they are talking about.

I was going to go Radeon, but after seeing the hassles my friend is having with his, I opted for Voodoo.  The 5500 is dual cpu, 64mb and has the FSAA that looks so damn nice.

I'm really looking forward to upgrading to a faster CPU to get even more FPS.

Thanks for the info.  www.voodoosource.net  has been quite good, as well.

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2001, 01:59:00 PM »
I bought SOB's old VooDoo 5 and like it.  I was flying around a base with only 1 hanger left and more smoke thatn I have seen in a long time.  I never went below 25FPS.

I am at 1024 x 768 75Mhz refresh rate and V-sync is off.  I have'nt really played with the V-sync ....

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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2001, 08:33:00 AM »
try vcontrol  <http://www.voodooextreme.com/koolsmoky/> it lets u adjust almost all the settings without restarting. BTW have u had any problems getting it to work ing agp4x?

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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2001, 03:08:00 AM »
As long as you are listing voodoo sources, might as well complete the list:
 http://www.omegacorner.com  http://www.voodoofiles.com  http://www.pc-toolbox.com/x3dfxcommunity.html

If you happen to be using a VIA chipset (like me), you might try using the "leaked" via optimised driver set floating around at one or more of these sites. Personally, I got worse performance with those drivers. Alternatively, the 1.03 Omega driver kit w/full toolbox makes the VIA chip optimisation setting mentioned in the original help file visible. But I discovered that it is already set to the performance setting by default, so nothing to gain there except maybe compatibility at the price of performance.
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