Hurricane Vs. Spitfire (Battle of Britain)

[Krusty]

The extra .303s were shoehorned into the wings outboard of the ammo storage pans because during the BOB they proved seriously underpowered for taking down rugged bombers.

The extra .303s were added in, increasing the firepower by 50%, but at serious detriment to roll rate and adding a bit of weight.

The IIB did not last long because the 4x20mm were deemed far more capable.

The only problem is by this time the Hurricane was falling behind in terms of design. Not long after it was relegated to ground attack and second tier activities. The Spitfire had ascended. It would not come back down until after the war's end.

[IronDog]

From what I've seen and read,the Spits worked on the fighters and the Hurricanes attacked the bombers.Corky mentioned the Hurricane's forward fuel tank,and I guess a lot of Hurri pilots were horribly burned if that tank was  hit.The Spit was the better aircraft,but the Hurricanes had more kills.
I've never been able to understand how Goering and the Luftwaffe thought the 109's could afford any decent escorting with 10-15 minutes over Great Britain before they had to had back to France.As good as Germany was with technology and they couldn't fix that perplexing problem.The 109 Emil at that time was the equal to the Spitfire,and to stifle it because of it's time over target was minimal is astonishing.

[BulletVI]

Yes the Hurri was armour plated behind the pilt but the Spit had a slight advantage over the Hurri.
Altho the spits armour plating behind the pilot was lighter and not as strong as the Hurri's this is because of the metal Skin of the Spit was made out of steel and was part of the strength provided and if you imajine a bullet hits the metal skin like all other objects its hitting a wall altho it penetrates its velocity has been slowed thus a Slightly lighter Armour plating was used in the Spit. But as the Hurri was all Fabric fueselage it required a mutch heavier andthicker armour plating behind the pilot.

And i do believe that , that made the Hurri Heavier than the Spit in straight line speed thus slower. But as it was slower it could out roll and out turn the Spit and 109. And many a Hurri pilot was saved due to this ability. Whilst going for the Bombers In 1940

P.S I bet $5 that some one is going to tell me thats a load of ****   

[Bronk]

Yes the Hurri was armour plated behind the pilt but the Spit had a slight advantage over the Hurri.
Altho the spits armour plating behind the pilot was lighter and not as strong as the Hurri's this is because of the metal Skin of the Spit was made out of steel and was part of the strength provided and if you imajine a bullet hits the metal skin like all other objects its hitting a wall altho it penetrates its velocity has been slowed thus a Slightly lighter Armour plating was used in the Spit. But as the Hurri was all Fabric fueselage it required a mutch heavier andthicker armour plating behind the pilot.

And i do believe that , that made the Hurri Heavier than the Spit in straight line speed thus slower. But as it was slower it could out roll and out turn the Spit and 109. And many a Hurri pilot was saved due to this ability. Whilst going for the Bombers In 1940

P.S I bet $5 that some one is going to tell me thats a load of ****   

Aircraft engineer he says......

[CAP1]

Yes the Hurri was armour plated behind the pilt but the Spit had a slight advantage over the Hurri.
Altho the spits armour plating behind the pilot was lighter and not as strong as the Hurri's this is because of the metal Skin of the Spit was made out of steel and was part of the strength provided and if you imajine a bullet hits the metal skin like all other objects its hitting a wall altho it penetrates its velocity has been slowed thus a Slightly lighter Armour plating was used in the Spit. But as the Hurri was all Fabric fueselage it required a mutch heavier andthicker armour plating behind the pilot.

And i do believe that , that made the Hurri Heavier than the Spit in straight line speed thus slower. But as it was slower it could out roll and out turn the Spit and 109. And many a Hurri pilot was saved due to this ability. Whilst going for the Bombers In 1940

P.S I bet $5 that some one is going to tell me thats a load of ****   

You sure the skin was steel, and not aluminum?

[Wiley]

Aircraft engineer he says......

...Please... if anybody knows, which manufacturer?  I would very much like to avoid their aircraft in the future if at all possible.
 

Wiley.

[SIK1]

Aircraft engineer he says......

More like a bovine excrement dispersion engineer. 

[Shuffler]

AKA Craptologist

That's an old one I just made up!

[BulletVI]

Seel Alliminium ok so i typed too fast ok and didnt word it correctly so what you obviously knew what i meant

[CAP1]

Seel Alliminium ok so i typed too fast ok and didnt word it correctly so what you obviously knew what i meant

my point in mentioning that was that aluminum that thin, will not absorb much energy from a round.....not nearly as much as you think anyway......

[Babalonian]

Maybe he's retired.  Aircraft Engineers used to be valued more for their creativity and enginuity than historical and mathmatical accuracy, chya know.   

[Ack-Ack]

You sure the skin was steel, and not aluminum?

semi-monocoque duralumin actually.

ack-ack

[Bronk]

Maybe he's retired.  Aircraft Engineers used to be valued more for their creativity and enginuity than historical and mathmatical accuracy, chya know.   

Resomethin but not retired.

[Masherbrum]

Resomethin but not retired.

Correct

[Hawklore]

Sources would be greatly appreciated!