Vulches

[bagrat]

yes yes +1 to this idea and while we are at it can we have these too!

[Pigslilspaz]

Have beaten every one of those games. 

[IrishOne]

I love these threads that whine about vulches and then the whiner tries to through out the "honorable" crap.  Yeah, like pilots didn't vulch in real life.  In the right photo strip shows a FW 190 being "vulched" as it was attempting to land (left strip shows a Me 109 getting its bellybutton shot to Hell).

Beside, vulching is one of the last true art forms and if it pisses of the guy that got vulched, all the better.


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ack-ack

i agree 100% with what you are, except i don't think thats a 109 on the left.  could be wrong

[Zygote404]

Now I didn't say you couldn't shoot planes on the ground.  Just that you shouldn't get a kill on one.  As for the predictable speculation, I havent been vulched recently since a virus put my computer out of commission on the 22nd, and I only just got it working again. 

My position hasn't changed, vulches of planes on the ground should not be classified as a kill.  However, having said that, I do understand, for those persons who would find their score being adversely affected in a serious way, from not getting kills on planes that are not actually flying, the apprehension such a change would cause and sincerely hope my suggestion didn't have a serious affect on your ailementary canal.

Actually thats not true, heres hoping it did.

Zygote

[Jayhawk]

Here's what would happen, people would either 1) still shoot you on the runway just as a method of field suppression or 2) wait till you just lift your wheels off the ground to shoot.  What's going to change?

The only thing that would change is some people's scores, and you shouldn't worry so much about other people's scores.

[Mus51]

See rule #4

[RoGenT]

Now if only you could take it out of the theory phase.

I could, but I like the air of suspense in the room...

[Zygote404]

Here's what would happen, people would either 1) still shoot you on the runway just as a method of field suppression or 2) wait till you just lift your wheels off the ground to shoot.  What's going to change?

The only thing that would change is some people's scores, and you shouldn't worry so much about other people's scores.

Nothing would change.  Thats not the point. 

[The Grinch]

My wish list for this week is to have vulching planes randomly explode...

Well not quite that, but I think if wheels haven't left the runway you shouldn't get a kill on the plane.  Its still very easy for a vulcher to kill a plane that's just lifted off, since its so slow and has no alt so its not so big a deal for the vulcher but its a big deal for the vulched and might encourage a bit of response to a horde.

Nope  
Take off from another close base an do a intercept mission.

[Westy]

"vulches of planes on the ground should not be classified as a kill."

It didn't work that way in real life so why should it be different for this
game?

[uptown]

Only Bishop and Rooks vulch, we knights call it 'anti-upping field suppression' 

[Dragunov]

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Go ahead and fill this out for all of you that cry about HOing and Vulching. HO attacks and Vulching attacks were a key strategy of many forces during WWII. Planes exploding because of strafing a grounded plane? This is realistic? Do your recon in the tower before uping your ride you might not get strafed.

[FLOTSOM]

"vulches of planes on the ground should not be classified as a kill."

It didn't work that way in real life so why should it be different for this
game?

actually yes they were counted. every item destroyed was credited to the pilot who destroyed the target if possible. it was viewed differently by his fellow pilots obviously, not as much prestige and probably not much glory, but every kill was a kill.

i hate vulching, for the purposes of game play and the fun of the engagement its lame in my opinion. in real life every plane or pilot killed on the ground was one less shooting at you in the sky, so the motivation to kill them on the ground was far different than it is in this game. so comparing this to real life is just simply impossible.

[Rino]

Amusing.  Firstly a suggestion is not a whine.  A whine is quite a bit similiar to the posts following my post then to my post.  I'm 37.  AFAIK you didn't get credited with a kill shooting airplanes on the ground.

While I understand the internet lets you behave in ways you won't get away with in real life, it still makes you look like a kinder kid. Try to have a little respect for fellow forum users and perhaps this may be somewhat frightening, but if you don't have anything to say, don't say anything.  Thank you.

     Evidently you don't do alot of reading.  The USAAC credited pilots with "vultch" kills during WW2.
In fact, killing something on the ground could be alot more dangerous than air to air.  We lost many
birds to AAA and crashes on these runs.  Gabreski was one of our best fighter pilots with the 56th.
He hit a "hump" while strafing an airfield and was taken prisoner.

     No fun being captured by the guys you were just shooting.  

[Ack-Ack]

Now I didn't say you couldn't shoot planes on the ground.  Just that you shouldn't get a kill on one.  As for the predictable speculation, I havent been vulched recently since a virus put my computer out of commission on the 22nd, and I only just got it working again. 

Regardless if you blow up the plane in the sky or in the air, a kill is a kill and therefore deserve credit for it.  Did you know that towards the end of the war, USAAF pilots were getting credit for kills on the ground?  I guess not.

My position hasn't changed, vulches of planes on the ground should not be classified as a kill.  However, having said that, I do understand, for those persons who would find their score being adversely affected in a serious way, from not getting kills on planes that are not actually flying, the apprehension such a change would cause and sincerely hope my suggestion didn't have a serious affect on your ailementary canal.

Actually thats not true, heres hoping it did.

Zygote

Yep, that's the only way I can get a kill is to vulch.  Players like me that don't have your vast experten skill need to do what we need to do to get a kill.  Maybe one day I will be as good as you so I don't have to resort to such low brow tactics to keep my score up.  Maybe you would be so kind as to go to the DA with me and teach me so I can learn to get a kill the "legitimate way"?

Oh, I believe the big word you were trying to use is spelled alimentary canal.

ack-ack