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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2010, 11:40:08 AM »
Might this have the unintended consequence of CVs only being used for port defense?  

With only 60 minutes there may be some unintended consequences, this being probably one of them.
A time span like 180 minutes even gives ample time to get the port back. It would also be an incentive for the side that just captured the port still to go out and sink that CV, instead of just waiting for it just falling into your ands after only an hour.
After all, the main reason for this wish is not to provide an easy way to gain a new CV, but just to prevent them being out of the fight for a whole week.

All usually strategies for CV combat would still work the same, even bringing it out of the danger zone until the port is recaptured... only infinite hiding and not caring about it any more would be a thing of the past.
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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2010, 12:48:35 PM »
With only 60 minutes there may be some unintended consequences, this being probably one of them.
A time span like 180 minutes even gives ample time to get the port back. It would also be an incentive for the side that just captured the port still to go out and sink that CV, instead of just waiting for it just falling into your ands after only an hour.
After all, the main reason for this wish is not to provide an easy way to gain a new CV, but just to prevent them being out of the fight for a whole week.

All usually strategies for CV combat would still work the same, even bringing it out of the danger zone until the port is recaptured... only infinite hiding and not caring about it any more would be a thing of the past.

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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2010, 01:09:24 PM »
With only 60 minutes there may be some unintended consequences, this being probably one of them.
A time span like 180 minutes even gives ample time to get the port back. It would also be an incentive for the side that just captured the port still to go out and sink that CV, instead of just waiting for it just falling into your ands after only an hour.
After all, the main reason for this wish is not to provide an easy way to gain a new CV, but just to prevent them being out of the fight for a whole week.

All usually strategies for CV combat would still work the same, even bringing it out of the danger zone until the port is recaptured... only infinite hiding and not caring about it any more would be a thing of the past.

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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2010, 06:13:23 PM »
I was going to change my vote to a +1..but then realized...the team which has the port would do at ALL costs, anything needed to keep the port until the time period was over and auto get the cv back..So lets say that one side against another side is battling it out for the port..MEANWHILE the team which has the cv is USING it,and then at the time limit,it goes away in the middle of a battle..Back to -1

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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2010, 06:31:05 PM »
I was going to change my vote to a +1..but then realized...the team which has the port would do at ALL costs, anything needed to keep the port until the time period was over and auto get the cv back..

But ain't that a great thing? One team has to hold the port at all costs, the other has to get the port back at all costs. Sounds like a great incentive to fight.
And my proposed 3 hours time span limits CV captures in easy mode, by horde smashing a port and then simply loiter over it. They better go and sink the CV, because 3 hours is a looong time in the MA. And try to hold a port vs a determined enemy for 3 hours... with no airfield and only 1 VH. If you manage to keep the port for that long, you have earned your CV :)



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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2010, 06:33:16 PM »
I was going to change my vote to a +1..but then realized...the team which has the port would do at ALL costs, anything needed to keep the port until the time period was over and auto get the cv back..So lets say that one side against another side is battling it out for the port..MEANWHILE the team which has the cv is USING it,and then at the time limit,it goes away in the middle of a battle..Back to -1
A port is definitely harder to defend then to take. Most of the maps are set up so they are easy to capture, notice how all the horde missions...some yours...go to ports.



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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2010, 07:54:02 PM »
You want to get people screaming on the BB's about how they had a great FB going,then all of a sudden the CV was GONE???Or how close they were to taking a base?? You dont see where if it is being used in my previous post,that your to,er odea just wouldnt go over well at all..And really most ports are already close to AF's,and can be defended quite easily..

 This would cause major fighting I believe ON-TEAM,the guys who were using the cv getting mad at the ones who didnt get the port...just feels like bad JU-JU....

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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2010, 07:55:45 PM »
You want to get people screaming on the BB's about how they had a great FB going,then all of a sudden the CV was GONE???

All of a sudden? With the enemy being in possession of the CV's homeport for 3(!) hours?


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Which is symptomatic for this map. After half of the week, a huge portion of CVs are simply out of play.
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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2010, 07:57:59 PM »
Just defend the CV BEFORE it gets taken,,AND the PORT...It happens to ALL SIDES...

  And lusche,it could be someone/many who logged in recently,and wasnt even there when the cv got taken by their team...
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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2010, 08:03:17 PM »
Maybe a better idea would be to not allow cv's to go more than say 2-3 sectors behind friendly lines..Get the ol' WAYPOINT is TOO FAR out of BOUNDS... :aok.. or hook and arrow to it if it gets so many sectors behind friendly lines.Like when someone is off the map...

 That sounds much more reasonable.
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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2010, 09:22:56 PM »
Maybe a better idea would be to not allow cv's to go more than say 2-3 sectors behind friendly lines..Get the ol' WAYPOINT is TOO FAR out of BOUNDS... :aok.. or hook and arrow to it if it gets so many sectors behind friendly lines.Like when someone is off the map...

 That sounds much more reasonable.
On these big maps CVs spawn most of the fights when they are all in use. The land always bottlenecks to the same place and go back and forth the entire time we have that map. CVs get around those bottle necks and open up more diverse types of fights
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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2010, 09:28:20 PM »
yea because people are going to be screaming about those CV fights the map above. Thats 2 fights that could be going on instead you have 2 cvs that have been removed from the map till the arena resets. CV's disappear from furballs all the time thanks to the tards that hide them, thats nothing new but at least in this idea we get them back instead of removed for the week.

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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2010, 06:23:21 AM »
This is where submarines could come in handy.... Just sayin'

having a submarine group with a 30 mile radius dar ring insted of 20 mile
 and any cv enemy cv to enter that dar ring will pop up on dar

it's up to the players to do the sinking though


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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2010, 06:26:56 AM »
Maybe a better idea would be to not allow cv's to go more than say 2-3 sectors behind friendly lines..Get the ol' WAYPOINT is TOO FAR out of BOUNDS... :aok.. or hook and arrow to it if it gets so many sectors behind friendly lines.Like when someone is off the map...

 That sounds much more reasonable.

sounds reasonable BUT it wont work

what if a CV is chasing another CV in friendly lines then has to discontinue the chase due to can't do any further

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Re: Official CV timer request................
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2010, 01:03:05 PM »
Easy Button: HT GET RID OF ALL CV'S IN GAME. Save a lot of room on AH BB about hiding cv's :bolt:
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