Well, sounds like a couple of turds are trying to drop into the punch bowl. Maybe they're having trouble leaving their romper room MA mentality at the door. If that is indeed the case, I recommend for those who don't want the AvA spoiled, rather than letting the turds ruin the fun, act as much as possible as if they don't exist. That would mean no acknowledgment whatsoever and if any mention of the turds is needed, use the 3rd person perspective.