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What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« on: October 09, 2010, 01:24:31 PM »
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KN was assinged Ju 88s and we admittedly were not very pleased about this. Nonetheless we fulfilled our objective of attacking the CV group in 14.2 destroying 6 of 6 ships located there. We had a few things working against us from the start:

1. Fighter jocks in Bombers  :D
2. My proposed plan for our Attack Group was abandoned by the Jokers resulting in the Jokers' annhilation before they reached the CV.
3. No escorts.

Our success came at the expense of the CHawks. They did a fine job of finding the CV group and keeping those fighters at bay while we made our way to boats.  :salute CHawks


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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2010, 01:37:31 PM »
Lol nice job. 

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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2010, 01:43:04 PM »
Top allied bomber squad was also a "fighter jock" unit, hehehe. We dabble, but it's not our speciality.

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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2010, 01:46:03 PM »
Well I didn't hit a thing. Bombed a lot of fish.
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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2010, 02:26:45 PM »
so you didn't follow orders and you hung the Jokers, the 801st and the Gamblers out to dry. Nice! Did you check in with the CIC? Next time you change the plan let everyone know.

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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2010, 04:19:38 PM »
Perdweebs big plan for the Jokers, as I heard it, was find the TG for us and only drop on the little ships, leaving the big stuff for him and his group.  Period.  Which had no bearing on our getting jumped by spits and F4F's one way or the other.  In fact, he probably got his group in because we tied up a major portion of the CAP, killing 5 with our heavy 110's, while he got what escort support there was.  So, I don't know what his whine is all about, but casting such aspirsions on other squads ain't constructive in the least.
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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2010, 04:47:17 PM »
Perdweebs big plan for the Jokers, as I heard it, was find the TG for us and only drop on the little ships, leaving the big stuff for him and his group.  Period.  Which had no bearing on our getting jumped by spits and F4F's one way or the other.  In fact, he probably got his group in because we tied up a major portion of the CAP, killing 5 with our heavy 110's, while he got what escort support there was.  So, I don't know what his whine is all about, but casting such aspirsions on other squads ain't constructive in the least.
I think he was just saying you all wouldn't have died so quick if you went with us in.
But regardless we got the task completed and that is all that matters.
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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2010, 05:33:35 PM »
KN was assinged Ju 88s and we admittedly were not very pleased about this.

Why not?  Are you special?

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1. Fighter jocks in Bombers  :D
2. My proposed plan for our Attack Group was abandoned by the Jokers resulting in the Jokers' annhilation before they reached the CV.
3. No escorts.

What a bunch of sanctimonious twaddle!  Your plan?  And just who died and left you in charge? We had our orders and they didn't come from you little boy.

No matter.  That was OK.  We got jumped, and took the fighter CAP away so that you could get in.  We had one pilot able to get ord out on the boat.

But your tone here is again, less than respecting in fellowship and definitely lacking in teamwork.  Observing the way you conduct yourself publicly though; this comes as no surprise.

The next time I'm in the area you are, your getting a cap in your mouthy little face junior.

And if we need to be out of FSO because of it, so be it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2010, 06:08:30 PM »
<<S>> and wtg perdue and ur squad, congrats.
And Spite, no disrespect intended, but perdweeb didnt just make aplan on his own an said"this is how it is", we talked about it for abit before launch and we all agreed on the plan in attack group 1. ive known perdweeb for along time, heck, he was a squadie of mine for along time and is a great pilot and when u get to know him he's really cool.
So no one "died" and made him boss. The job was done and thats whats important.
WTG Axis, very nice work. and wtg NN and JJ's on all the damage u did. very nice.
<<S>> and im looking forward to flying w/ ya again in the future.
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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2010, 06:47:56 PM »
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less than respecting in fellowship and definitely lacking in teamwork.

Oh really?  I seem to recall since we really had no specific orders regarding co-operation between Ju88s/110s, OR ESCORTS, Perdweeb talking to Busher trying to come to some idea of a plan (IE all of us going in together, you 110 guys hitting small vessels, us stuck in bombers hitting the CV).

Bushers exact quote:  "you're breaking up can't receive you".....which, albeit, a fine attempt at humour, most DEFINITELY lacking in teamwork, as you accuse us.  Film can be provided of said exchange.  I even said to my squad that'd be the last we heard from the Jokers as they would just ignore any further attempts at comms (which you did), and then hit the CV group without us (again, which you did).  My experience of flying with the Jokers previous to my 1st Afghanistan tour (Gman from hornets/assasins/etc) made this as sure as shooting, as I know how aggressive most guys in the Jokers were/are, and I even threw down a 100$ bet to everyone on vox at 2-1 that this is what you would do, and you did it.

Anyhow, don't get all rumpled thiking that we wanted you 110 guys to sacrifice yourselves for our bomb run, quite the opposite.  You complain that we got an easy shot at the CV due to you taking the heat from the fighters, which is true in my opinion, and thanks, but if we had worked together and GONE IN together, you can bet us Ju88 guys would have taken the beating from the fighters, and you guys in 110s would have all hit ships, instead of just one, thus completing the mission.  I'd have gladly flown into the fighters as I'd never even flown a Ju88 before yesterday, and taken the heat off you so you could hit the ships, as we could have outrun the fighters once jumped, and made it easy for you to hit the targets, as you ended up doing for us, although not by any plans made.  When you act ignorantly by pretending you can't hear vox comms when making plans, expect to be treated the same.
 
Anyhow, <S> to the Chawks and the Jokers for their work in getting us through the Cap, I had a complete blast flying last night with everyone.

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The next time I'm in the area you are, your getting a cap in your mouthy little face junior.

And if we need to be out of FSO because of it, so be it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haha, ok, calm down and save the tough guy talk.



As an aside, I give a big <S> to Daddog et al for putting this frame together.  In 11 years of flying Aces High, this was my first FSO, and was hands down the most fun I've had in the game that I can remember, partly due to the environment created by everyones hard work, and partly from being exposed to something new, a mission with bombers.  I'll be highly recommending the experience to everyone I talk to regarding Aces High.
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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2010, 07:28:07 PM »
If you read the orders it said "Attack Group One CO Kommando Nowotny" That means I am in charg yes?

And we were all in the tower when I gave my plan and suggested it. However, no one wanted to do it so we killed the boat by ourselves. But yes, a big part of that was due to the enemy fighter's being harassed. And we gave that proper credit. For the record, I meant nothing offensive in my post. Was just pointing out our disadvantages. And we are not special, just saying, we are not very good in bombers, thats why we were upset "Oh man, we got Ju 88s :(" That kinda thing.

801st we told ya where we were going, yall didnt follow my formation. Sorry if it seemed like we hng yall out  :salute

In the end, it doesnt matter, the CV group died. WTG everyone.


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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2010, 08:19:42 PM »
I think the best thing would be to lock this thread. No need for this kind of behavior in the sacred FSO forum. I meant nothing by anything in my first post. It was more of an "LOL guess what happened last night." I am usually not very innocent but this time, I am. If Jokers took it offensively (which they obviously did) I sincerely apologize and  :salute them.

No need for flaming in FSO forum. Let's please bite our lips and leave it be. I said my apologies and I was sincere.


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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2010, 08:26:25 PM »
I seem to recall being attacked by fighters Spite. I believe you encountered fighters, I'm just skeptical that they were capped for an extended period.

Was fun though.  :banana: :banana: :banana:

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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2010, 11:02:11 PM »
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I am usually not very innocent but this time, I am. If Jokers took it offensively (which they obviously did) I sincerely apologize and  salute them.

No need for flaming in FSO forum. Let's please bite our lips and leave it be. I said my apologies and I was sincere.
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Re: What happens when you put Fighter Jocks in Bombers
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2010, 01:49:32 AM »
Number 4 is by far the most important :D


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