Gun control

[Flench]

Worst part is if you shoot them and don't kill them in some states  they can come back and sue you in civil court for damages.

Shoot until they are down and won't get back up.

And there you have it ...

[Jayhawk]

I guess the aftermath looks like a mess, and I think revolvers have higher recoil.
She could have taken them out efficiently with glocks.

I feel like you don't know what you're talking about.

[TnDep]

to bad that sob didnt die too and is now wasting our tax dollars

[jimson]

From a legal standpoint, never shoot to kill and never shoot to wound.

Only shoot to stop, whatever you feel that takes 

[Perrine]

From a legal standpoint, never shoot to kill and never shoot to wound.

Only shoot to stop, whatever you feel that takes 

See that's why I'm for glock and other almost-zero recoil pistols.

You need to precisely, surgically disable them.  With revolver you end up basically butchering them.
For example, I disable the perpetrator by shoot the knees with a revolver.  With a revolver I'm most likely to end up shooting his balls or the femoral artery which will leave a pool of blood on my carpet.

[Masherbrum]

See that's why I'm for glock and other almost-zero recoil pistols.

You need to precisely, surgically disable them.  With revolver you end up basically butchering them.
For example, I disable the perpetrator by shoot the knees with a revolver.  With a revolver I'm most likely to end up shooting his balls or the femoral artery which will leave a pool of blood on my carpet.

Are you really that bad of a shot?   If so, stay away from guns.   

[Jayhawk]

See that's why I'm for glock and other almost-zero recoil pistols.

You need to precisely, surgically disable them.  With revolver you end up basically butchering them.
For example, I disable the perpetrator by shoot the knees with a revolver.  With a revolver I'm most likely to end up shooting his balls or the femoral artery which will leave a pool of blood on my carpet.

You really don't understand what you are talking about.  Yes, the type of gun can have an effect on recoil, a heavy gun might cut down on some of the recoil. But you say it as if revolvers are impossible to control and tear apart everything they touch while the magic Glock is a precision tool.  I'm sorry, but you don't understand firearms or defensive shooting situations.  You act as if the ammunition used has no effect.  The article says she used a snub nosed revolver, most likely a .38 special.  Glocks are made in 9mm, .40, 10mm, .45 GAP, .45 AUTO, .380 AUTO, and .357.  She probably carried a revolver because of it's ease of use, safety, and reliability.  

In a defensive shooting, you aim for center of body mass, you will find very few people who know what they are talking about disagree with that.  Your adrenaline will be pumping and your body's stress response will take away a surprising amount of control from your extremities, you won't be able to make a surgical shot.  A person who has a handgun for protection probably has it loaded with quality hollow-point ammunition, as well they should.  Although there is no magic answer, most handgun rounds are probably not going to tear apart a person like you see in the movies.  

[Masherbrum]

You really don't understand what you are talking about.  Yes, the type of gun can have an effect on recoil, a heavy gun might cut down on some of the recoil. But you say it as if revolvers are impossible to control and tear apart everything they touch while the magic Glock is a precision tool.  I'm sorry, but you don't understand firearms or defensive shooting situations.  You act as if the ammunition used has no effect.  The article says she used a snub nosed revolver, most likely a .38 special.  Glocks are made in 9mm, .40, 10mm, .45 GAP, .45 AUTO, .380 AUTO, and .357.  She probably carried a revolver because of it's ease of use, safety, and reliability.  

In a defensive shooting, you aim for center of body mass, you will find very few people who know what they are talking about disagree with that.  Your adrenaline will be pumping and your body's stress response will take away a surprising amount of control from your extremities, you won't be able to make a surgical shot.  A person who has a handgun for protection probably has it loaded with quality hollow-point ammunition, as well they should.  Although there is no magic answer, most handgun rounds are probably not going to tear apart a person like you see in the movies.  

The article mentioned shots to the head.   If that's the case, you aren't getting up from a .38 special round to the head.    So, my man is either going to be a vegetable or die from his wounds.   If not, he might be the luckiest SOB alive.   Albeit, going to prison if he lives.   But I don't see him leaving the hospital alive, if it was a .38. 

Also, having been at a morgue for Criminalistics and Forensics, the wounds inflicted are not easy on the stomach.   But the only thing Hollywood does, is throw bodies backwards.   I saw an autopsy on a guy who was killed in a mob hit.  He was shot by ten 12 gauge rounds.   The view wasn't pretty, as the 00 buck tore his torso up.

Good for the woman though. 

[Jayhawk]

The article mentioned shots to the head.   If that's the case, you aren't getting up from a .38 special round to the head.    So, my man is either going to be a vegetable or die from his wounds.   If not, he might be the luckiest SOB alive.   Albeit, going to prison if he lives.   But I don't see him leaving the hospital alive, if it was a .38. 

Also, having been at a morgue for Criminalistics and Forensics, the wounds inflicted are not easy on the stomach.   But the only thing Hollywood does, is throw bodies backwards.   I saw an autopsy on a guy who was killed in a mob hit.  He was shot by ten 12 gauge rounds.   The view wasn't pretty, as the 00 buck tore his torso up.

Good for the woman though. 

Oh yes, you're right.  Perrine made it sound like a .38 special would leave a particularly more gruesome wound than a round from a Glock, which doesn't make sense.  Also, I'm not trying to come off as any kind of defensive shooting expert or criticizing how this woman did anything, every situation is different, there is no cookie cutter answer.  Also, I was more particularly discussing handguns, I can't imagine how terrible a shotgun wound would look like.

[Larry]

For example, I disable the perpetrator by shoot the knees with a revolver. 

That's your problem right there. I don't know who taught you how to shoot but I, along with most people, was taught to shoot to kill and not wound. I don't own a pistol but if I did and were in this situation I would aim center mass and squeeze two or three rounds off. I do on the other hand have a pistol griped 12Ga shotgun right next to my bed with a couple 00buck rounds hidden within reaching distance. There have been several home invasions in my area this past year, one of them just three houses down from mine where multiple purps broke in and tied up the family while they robbed them blind. Thank god no one has been hurt so far but Iv prepared myself and have actually rehearsed what I would do if someone broke into my house. One thing that I for sure will not do is aim below the SOB's waist. If I have to defend myself, my family, or property I'm aiming for the heart or head if I get the shot. 

[Tupac]

When you take a concealed carry class, they teach you to empty the gun into them. 1. So they die 2. So if they manage to get hold of the gun there arent any bullets left.

[Jayhawk]

When you take a concealed carry class, they teach you to empty the gun into them. 1. So they die 2. So if they manage to get hold of the gun there arent any bullets left.

They didn't teach that in my concealed carry class, but I've heard it and understand it.  The body can withstand a tremendous amount of damage and still operate (at least for a few seconds or minutes).  Shoot until they are no longer a threat, 2 or 3 may not be enough.

[Flench]

From a legal standpoint, never shoot to kill and never shoot to wound.

Only shoot to stop, whatever you feel that takes 

And just how you going to do that (never shoot to kill and never shoot to wound.Only shoot to stop,) Is it just me or doe's this not make any since ?

[mbailey]

I believe that would be his answer should he be prosecuted for shooting someone.........(dont take jimsons post in the literal sence)


Prosecuter " Did you shoot to kill Mr Scumbag?"

Civilian " No sir i shot to stop him ( the threat etc ) " 
While you want to shoot center of mass and kill him, what you want to do is stop the threat.

Regarding wounding someone and or shooting them in the knees, its good for TV, In RL it will get you or your loved ones killed

[Plawranc]

If it is threatening you, shoot it, if it twitches.. shoot it again.