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Offline Krusty

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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2010, 06:08:42 PM »
No, AH does NOT have a Type 18. Our I-16 clearly has M-63 power plant while the Type 18 was powered with a M-62. The Types AH I-16 represents through different load outs are 24, 28, 29.

The only difference between the 18 and the 28 was the engine. The later M-62 engines put in the I-16 were only a small step behind the M-63s in regards to horsepower (less than 100 hp difference, if I recall), otherwise, every feature you find on the 28 was introduced on the 18: tail wheel instead of skid, possible drop tanks, rocket racks, etc.

Aside from a few mph difference we have it in all but name. Our I-16 is a hybrid anyways, with prototypical speed charts (production models being slower by nature), so it's not even a true Type 28. It is pretty damn close to the 18 regardless.

I'm not ignorant of the I-16. While I don't know the history as well as some others, I do appreciate its early record and my personal preference is to call it Rata or Mosca, despite these not being as common as the Ishak and other names from WW2. I have an interest in the plane and have read a few things on it.


If you REALLY want an earlier model I-16 it would have to be the Type 5 or Type 10. Despite being totally obsolete by the German invasion, they were the most produced marks and made up a large portion of the VVS in 1939.


So I'll thank you to keep the insults to a minimum.

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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2010, 06:12:08 PM »


You would have found that the F6F-3 late models in the production run already had the engine with WEP, that was maintained on the F6F-5, but a streamlined cowling gave it 4mph more speed. You would have found that most folks want the F6F-3 because it would be LIGHTER than the F6F-5 and turn even better.


I only want the F6F-3 with the hope that the side windows will allow me to see the crowd of red planes on my six.
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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2010, 06:19:59 PM »
I agree, closing windows is kindof a 'gap filler' :D

It would be cool to be able to open the window in the cockpit of many rides, like the 109s, (except the g14/k4, which have a different hood).
 
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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2010, 06:43:56 PM »
lol 109's open sideways, I think it would be pretty hard to close while in flight, that is if the wind didn't rip it off, as for the galland hood, did it open to the side like the rest of the 109's or was it a slider?
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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2010, 07:07:21 PM »
I was talking about the mini slide window on the left side.
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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2010, 07:33:37 PM »
ah rgr, what would it do though?
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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2010, 07:48:00 PM »
allow me to stick my head out the window enabling my scarf the trail behind... :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :airplane:

beyond that.... hmmmm not quite sure... :headscratch:
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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2010, 08:12:48 PM »
So I'll thank you to keep the insults to a minimum.

You specifically stated how AH already has the Type 18. No point in trying to dance your way out of it.

It is very simple. As long as you keep "correcting" people with false information and telling them how they should do their research while you yourself are wrong in the matter in the first place, you can expect some abraisive corrections. No need to make me the bad guy as long as you keep up with this annoying habit of yours. Read about the subject before you post.
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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2010, 10:02:51 PM »
You specifically stated how AH already has the Type 18. No point in trying to dance your way out of it.

It is very simple. As long as you keep "correcting" people with false information and telling them how they should do their research while you yourself are wrong in the matter in the first place, you can expect some abraisive corrections. No need to make me the bad guy as long as you keep up with this annoying habit of yours. Read about the subject before you post.
we talking the type 18 ammo load out? because the in game I-16 has types 22 24 and 25. :headscratch:
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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2010, 10:27:39 PM »
Sorry if I was wrong about the info on I-16.  I don't have stacks of rare books like you bookworms do.


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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2010, 10:42:43 PM »
real 190A5s were actually better than they are in the game

I must say the real A5 is just like this game's A8.

A5 Speed

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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2010, 11:53:02 PM »
You specifically stated how AH already has the Type 18. No point in trying to dance your way out of it.

Don't be an arse.

We have an 18, the same way we have a P-51C. The same way we have a 190A-4. The same way we have a 109E-3.

We already HAVE it, hence why id he'd done any research he'd know there were little to no differences.

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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2010, 06:45:16 AM »
I must say the real A5 is just like this game's A8.

A5 Speed
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just a little off with that one... :headscratch: A5 and A8 climb rate and turn rates in the game are far off. and what you just showed me just showed that you are off in your assumption. look at say, the 16k mark in climb rate of the 190A5 chart and the 190A8 in game chart... now compare the chart you show to the 190A5 chart from in the game. In fact, my assumption was off also. the 190A5 in the game climbs at 3k Ft per min compared to your chart's 2400 ft per min at 16k. even at 16k in the 190A8 is at a faster climb rate than your chart. i have also heard that the 190A8 is overweight in the game and that it runs irl like an A5.
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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2010, 10:50:03 AM »
Don't be an arse.

We have an 18, the same way we have a P-51C. The same way we have a 190A-4. The same way we have a 109E-3.

We already HAVE it, hence why id he'd done any research he'd know there were little to no differences.

It truly isn't me who's being one.

As I said, no point in trying to tapdance your way out. Maybe you should have said that you think that the variant he proposed was too similar to the ones we have instead of saying it is the same? But we both know that you had your numbers mixed up and being the Krusty you are you simply can't admit being wrong. Having a different engine alone is enough for it to be a separate variant. If the game needs it or not is another matter. But don't go telling others they need to do their reserach when you don't seem to know the subject matter any better.
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Re: How about some extra gap fillers?
« Reply #44 on: October 15, 2010, 12:24:03 PM »


My guess is that p38h mirrors performance of p38j below 12,000 feet but not above that.  Correct me here if i'm wrong

You're wrong.


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