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Offline TheDudeDVant

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A new ship!
« on: October 11, 2010, 07:19:57 PM »
That would represent the puffy fire control ship.. A radar ship if you will..  Some new cool ship we could destroy to stop the puffy ack.. Instead of having to destroy them all..
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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2010, 07:25:57 PM »
Why?  Is it your intent that if this ship is sunk then the CV fleet would not be able to fire puffy acks?

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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2010, 07:30:53 PM »
If that was to take affect,let's see.... No more puffy ack on destroyers( only manned 5")
And the aa ship could be the atlanta class CA, or the Akatsuki DD.
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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2010, 07:31:52 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on October 11, 2010, 07:25:57 PM
Why?  Is it your intent that if this ship is sunk then the CV fleet would not be able to fire puffy acks?

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 Or a ship to greatly reduce puffy.
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Offline TheDudeDVant

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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2010, 07:34:15 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on October 11, 2010, 07:25:57 PM
Why?  Is it your intent that if this ship is sunk then the CV fleet would not be able to fire puffy acks?

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uhh yea!  We're not ever going to get rid of the puffgods.. At least give us some central target we can go after to stop it.. And we'll get new targets for the war winners.. Its WIN WIN!
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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2010, 07:35:41 PM »
Quote from: Void on October 11, 2010, 07:30:53 PM
If that was to take affect,let's see.... No more puffy ack on destroyers( only manned 5")
And the aa ship could be the atlanta class CA, or the Akatsuki DD.

There would still be puffy acks on destroyers, what do you think those 5" guns fired in AA mode?  


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Offline JHerne

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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2010, 07:36:23 PM »
Well, since Fletcher Class destroyers were each equipped with a CiC, and most served as radar pickets, and they all carried independent SC-series radar (with the exception of the USS Pringle, which carried SA), and since each Mk 14 Fire Control Director was equipped with an additional Mk. 22 radar, and since each ship carried its own set of SG radar....

I would say...

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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2010, 07:40:30 PM »
And don't even get me started on SC-1 and SC-2 series radar carried by the bigger ships.

You want an Atlanta? Early war or late war?

So you want SIX twin 5"/38 turrets, and six or more quad 40mm mounts?

Ugh.
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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2010, 07:42:00 PM »
If you want to fix puffy ack, make it actually FIRED by the guns, not auto-generated around the target as they are now. That way there's actual time of flight and aim correction rather than a magic kill box.
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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2010, 07:43:59 PM »
Quote from: JHerne on October 11, 2010, 07:40:30 PM
And don't even get me started on SC-1 and SC-2 series radar carried by the bigger ships.

You want an Atlanta? Early war or late war?

So you want SIX twin 5"/38 turrets, and six or more quad 40mm mounts?

Ugh.

It would basically replace 2 destroyers.
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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2010, 08:08:39 PM »
Quote from: Void on October 11, 2010, 07:43:59 PM
It would basically replace 2 destroyers.

Uhhh, no.... A single Atlanta has 6 twin guns, equaling a total of 12 barrels. That would be three destroyers, going on the premise that 4 turrets are available on a Fletcher. In addition, and I'm not sure they modeled it in AH or not, but the Fletcher used a 5"/25 caliber gun, while the Gearings and Sumners, and all larger class ships with twin mounts (Essex, Pittsburgh Class CAs, Atlanta Class CLAA, Iowa Class, SoDak, Washington class, etc) all used 5"/38 caliber weapons.

What you're asking for, a radar control ship, didn't happen in WW2. A WW2 ship was USED as the first radar control ship, the USS Saipan, a CVL, but that was post war.

I have no problem with eliminating auto-puffy and adding an Atlanta Class CLAA to compensate, or even upgrading the Fletcher-esque destroyers we have now to Sumners. In fact, I'm all for it. But sinking a ship and having that one ship reduce the effectiveness of the AA overall is not a great idea.
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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2010, 09:10:47 PM »
How about this, rather than sinking some magical ship that controls all the flak guns why don't you just sink the CV instead and voila! Problem solved in 5 minutes.
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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2010, 09:20:18 PM »
Quote from: JHerne on October 11, 2010, 08:08:39 PM
Uhhh, no.... A single Atlanta has 6 twin guns, equaling a total of 12 barrels. That would be three destroyers, going on the premise that 4 turrets are available on a Fletcher.

Fletcher class destroyers have 5 turrets.
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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2010, 09:26:12 PM »
Quote from: Beefcake on October 11, 2010, 09:10:47 PM
How about this, rather than sinking some magical ship that controls all the flak guns why don't you just sink the CV instead and voila! Problem solved in 5 minutes.

Which you could kill that ship and 75% of your problem is an instant removal. :neener:
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Re: A new ship!
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2010, 09:43:49 PM »
     Interesting, but a bit scary  :D



The Oakland class



     Btw JHerne, this one has 16 5 inch in 8 turrets, 6 inline and 2 others just forward of the stern battery.
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