ENY for the P-51

[Ack-Ack]

yet with the inexperience of both pilots, the planes will fly differently compared to two pilots that know the aircraft they fly in. ive shot down P38s in a p51 because they did not have the experience to fly the 38 and/or did not know how the P51 can fly.

Just because an inexperienced pilot in a P-38 was shot down by another inexperienced pilot in a Mustang isn't going to change that fact the Lightning is more maneuverable.  The Lightning at the controls of an inexperienced player is still as maneuverable as a Lightning in the hands of an experienced player, the only difference is the experienced player knows how to squeeze all he can out of the Lightning, whereas the inexperienced player doesn't and gets out turned by someone in a Mustang. 

i dont care if i am corrected, but when someone corrects me with a cocky attitude, it's rude and i get annoyed.

ack-ack

[grizz441]

Ack-Ack, King of Zing.

[321BAR]

Just because an inexperienced pilot in a P-38 was shot down by another inexperienced pilot in a Mustang isn't going to change that fact the Lightning is more maneuverable.  The Lightning at the controls of an inexperienced player is still as maneuverable as a Lightning in the hands of an experienced player, the only difference is the experienced player knows how to squeeze all he can out of the Lightning, whereas the inexperienced player doesn't and gets out turned by someone in a Mustang. 

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ack-ack

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then honestly, how is it that when im in a fight against a 38 in my P51B, i manage to outfly them and kill them? id like to know, because you say your 38 is more maneuverable than my 51. id like to get you in the DA just to see the differences between the two planes actually. this is making me curious now...

[mbailey]

ignoring the picture

 

You gotta admit, that was a little funny.  

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[B4Buster]

Some people petition  for the perking of the 51, others for lowering the eny. Make up your minds people.

[waystin2]

Some people petition  for the perking of the 51, others for lowering the eny. Make up your minds people.

In fairness B4, I think it has a 50% chance!

[B4Buster]

Heh, that's sound logic!

[oakranger]

If the 109k should be 5, then you should be able to hop in one and kill rather easily.  I know i know, *if only* you had good aim you could.  But see, that is the catch22 and why it isn't eny 5.

I was thinking more on speed, clime rate, turn and acceleration that gives it the ENY 5.  Yea, gun package is weak but like you said, good aim makes it deadly.  I know this because of the hell of a shot you had on me.  Also, i up a few time in the G14, i can easy take out a bomber by one shot on the wing. 

[grizz441]

Also, i up a few time in the G14, i can easy take out a bomber by one shot on the wing. 

Nah, it takes like 5-6 taters normally.

[Rino]

I was thinking more on speed, clime rate, turn and acceleration that gives it the ENY 5.  Yea, gun package is weak but like you said, good aim makes it deadly.  I know this because of the hell of a shot you had on me.  Also, i up a few time in the G14, i can easy take out a bomber by one shot on the wing. 

     Using that logic the K-4 should be a 3 

[oakranger]

Nah, it takes like 5-6 taters normally.

I can get 1-2 rounds on a dive.  They are on fire. 

[grizz441]

I can get 1-2 rounds on a dive.  They are on fire. 

Maybe occasionally.  On average it takes around 5-6 to kill a heavy bomber.

[Plawranc]

Yeah? YEAH?

Well let me think about this. I hate P-51D's. The B's are cool, but the D's suuuuck. The only reason I support the notion of PERKING the 51D is because it can outrun almost anything and when you fly it, the guns are so unstable you either have to fly the thing nonstop 24 hours to get your eye in, or fly 3 feet away. And you cannot win a turn fight unless fighting something with inferior weight statistics, Even 190's beat it with their roll.

Its fine where it is, cause its only use is anti 109, Typh and 262 duties.

[B4Buster]

Yeah? YEAH?

Well let me think about this. I hate P-51D's. The B's are cool, but the D's suuuuck. The only reason I support the notion of PERKING the 51D is because it can outrun almost anything and when you fly it, the guns are so unstable you either have to fly the thing nonstop 24 hours to get your eye in, or fly 3 feet away. And you cannot win a turn fight unless fighting something with inferior weight statistics, Even 190's beat it with their roll.

Its fine where it is, cause its only use is anti 109, Typh and 262 duties.

I have to say, I disagree with most of your post. The 51D accelerates slow, which is a huge factor if you plan on doing any kind of turning. I've always thought it to be a very stable gun platform. It's very stable when compared to a Spitfire, F4U, or La-7 (some of the other more popular rides in the MA). The 51D can turnfight. Not many players try is all. They are under the impression it just "can't" turn, so don't bother trying.

With that being said, you said you support the perking of a 51D but think it is unstable, turns bad, and its' only duty is anti 109, typhoon, and 262 duties? Ok...

[321BAR]

Yeah? YEAH?

Well let me think about this. I hate P-51D's. The B's are cool, but the D's suuuuck. The only reason I support the notion of PERKING the 51D is because it can outrun almost anything and when you fly it, the guns are so unstable you either have to fly the thing nonstop 24 hours to get your eye in, or fly 3 feet away. And you cannot win a turn fight unless fighting something with inferior weight statistics, Even 190's beat it with their roll.

Its fine where it is, cause its only use is anti 109, Typh and 262 duties.

P51s cant turn? you get me in the DA against your spit, and yes, it cant out turn you. but you follow me at 400mph with many aircraft from the game then you see who's out turning who

also, on actual turn fights, those flaps give you a major maneuvering advantage. you just need to see that flaps do alot for a 51

I was commented one time on a reversal i did on a typhoon, i pulled up so fast that he literally lost sight on me until my .50s were passing his wing. The P51 can turn, you just need to learn its not so secret secret...