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Offline Plazus

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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2010, 07:27:15 PM »
i think the P-51D should have a eny of 10 or 15

I think you should explain your reasoning as to why. As of right now, the ENY value is fine where it's at. All of the above posts basically explain everything quite well.

Next time you post a new thread on the wishlist, you should support your statements with facts.
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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2010, 08:01:27 AM »
Funny.... i get more kills in a Bravo than a Delta stang... :noid :neener:

Edit: even better... the 109K4 is my nemesis while in the Bravo...
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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2010, 08:04:01 AM »
i think the P-51D should have a eny of 10 or 15


I think personally the Ponies ENY is fine where it's at.

The 38J should be at 15 and the 38L at 10...IMO. But that's about the only small change I see that might be ok.

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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2010, 08:09:01 AM »

I think personally the Ponies ENY is fine where it's at.

The 38J should be at 15 and the 38L at 10...IMO. But that's about the only small change I see that might be ok.
the P38J seems fine at 20, because once you start diving in that thing, it gets hard to control it compared to the L (which seems fine at 15), also it cant fly as long while carrying the same ord loadout that the 51's got and it cant maneuver as well in the long run (some will disagree with this, but the P51 in general is easier for someone to fly than the 38). the 51 can kill just as easily as the 38, out run them, at alt the twin allisons dont work as well as the 51's merlins. should i keep going? :headscratch:
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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2010, 08:30:28 AM »
the P38J seems fine at 20, because once you start diving in that thing, it gets hard to control it compared to the L (which seems fine at 15), also it cant fly as long while carrying the same ord loadout that the 51's got and it cant maneuver as well in the long run (some will disagree with this, but the P51 in general is easier for someone to fly than the 38). the 51 can kill just as easily as the 38, out run them, at alt the twin allisons dont work as well as the 51's merlins. should i keep going? :headscratch:

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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2010, 08:57:10 AM »
P-38 still owns it
:rofl thats not in question here
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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2010, 06:31:53 PM »
well it entered service in what 44 44
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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2010, 06:35:43 PM »
well it entered service in what 44 45
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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2010, 06:36:41 PM »
well it entered service in what 44 44
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And your point is?
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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2010, 06:43:19 PM »
the P38J seems fine at 20, because once you start diving in that thing, it gets hard to control it compared to the L (which seems fine at 15),

The P-38J dives just as well and is just as controllable as the P-38L in a dive.  The only ones that have an issue with diving in any of the P-38s are the ones with lack of experiencing in flying it.  Even with the P-38L I rarely use the dive flaps to recover from a dive as I don't need them and usually only use them to aid in high speed turning.



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also it cant fly as long while carrying the same ord loadout that the 51's got

True that the P-38 doesn't quite have the legs as the Mustang, but with fuel conservation settings the P-38's effective range is just as far in the MA as the Mustang so it's rather a moot point.

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it cant maneuver as well in the long run (some will disagree with this, but the P51 in general is easier for someone to fly than the 38).

The P-38J (G and L too) can out maneuver the Mustang at all altitudes.

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should i keep going? :headscratch:

Yes, please do because maybe next time you'll get something correct.


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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2010, 07:04:00 PM »
The 109K should be 5 with the P-51 and P-47.  Sh*t, make everything have a ENY of 5. 

If the 109k should be 5, then you should be able to hop in one and kill rather easily.  I know i know, *if only* you had good aim you could.  But see, that is the catch22 and why it isn't eny 5.

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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2010, 06:37:45 PM »
The P-38J dives just as well and is just as controllable as the P-38L in a dive.  The only ones that have an issue with diving in any of the P-38s are the ones with lack of experiencing in flying it.  Even with the P-38L I rarely use the dive flaps to recover from a dive as I don't need them and usually only use them to aid in high speed turning.



True that the P-38 doesn't quite have the legs as the Mustang, but with fuel conservation settings the P-38's effective range is just as far in the MA as the Mustang so it's rather a moot point.

The P-38J (G and L too) can out maneuver the Mustang at all altitudes.

Yes, please do because maybe next time you'll get something correct.


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hey ackack... youre not the average pilot. you put a newb in a 51 and a 38 who doesnt know about each's strengths and weaknesses. you see which outflies which. ok? stop ragging on people for being "wrong"...
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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2010, 06:55:58 PM »
hey ackack... youre not the average pilot. you put a newb in a 51 and a 38 who doesnt know about each's strengths and weaknesses. you see which outflies which.

You are using pilot skill to compare the maneuverability and performance of two different planes, that will lead to inconclusive and inaccurate results.

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ok? stop ragging on people for being "wrong"...

When one gives incorrect advice, don't be surprised when it gets corrected. 


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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2010, 11:35:00 AM »
You are using pilot skill to compare the maneuverability and performance of two different planes, that will lead to inconclusive and inaccurate results.

When one gives incorrect advice, don't be surprised when it gets corrected. 


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yet with the inexperience of both pilots, the planes will fly differently compared to two pilots that know the aircraft they fly in. ive shot down P38s in a p51 because they did not have the experience to fly the 38 and/or did not know how the P51 can fly.

i dont care if i am corrected, but when someone corrects me with a cocky attitude, it's rude and i get annoyed.
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Re: ENY for the P-51
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2010, 11:39:43 AM »
Great fuel and ord loadout, 6 .50 cals and speed. ENY is good at 5.  :salute

Why do you think the ENY should be raised?

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