How Historicly Accurate are these Gunsights?

[bustr]

PHENIX's GUNSITES FOR WB3

http://www.errthum.com/troy/warbirds/gunsites/history.html

He seems to have gone to alot of research. I thought the K14 six pointed star reticle was only avilable in the K14 and MkII Gyro gunsight without jabo ladders. He shows it in a Mk8 and L3 with ghosted jabo ladders. The primary ring size for all of these seems to be 70mil with any larger like on the japanese outer ring at about 100mil.

[Ack-Ack]

Can these be converted to use with AH?  I know the old WB 2.xx gunsights could be converted over since that's what I did for my original gunsight to use in here.

I really like the P-38J and L sights.

ack-ack

[bustr]

It is your standard 70mil N9 ring and K14 star. The K14 has the bottom of the N9 jabo ghosted into it. Do a 512x512 bmp file. Start your ring at 186, 186. Make a (.mil) file for it with 256 in it. On a 512x512 bmp 2pixels is one mil. Your dashes are every 10 pixels for the ladder. I forget where I saw a N9 reticle but, I use a small cross instead of a dot.

The K14 and MkII Gyro had a fixed 70mil ring with a small cross for the dot. It was used for bore sighting, jabo and if the Gyro fuction went out.

[EskimoJoe]

USAAF N3 and N9, I would love to have them! 

[Saxman]

Their description of the Mk.VIII sight is definitely inaccurate. The sight itself is 150mil in span, with rings at 50 and 100mils.

[bustr]

I already have most of these in 70mil ring except for some of the japanese which are 70mil inner 100mil outer and Saxman posted a great Mk8 already 100mil outer ring 50mil inner ring. If its Ok with Saxman I can include the Mk8 in the package. I can rebuild all of these in a 512x512 format so you can use a .mil file with 256 in it to scale them properly. It will take me about a day or so to get them ready. By the way I do Revi3, 12C and 16b in white and SanGior and Allied in orange. For accuracy I will include the 35mil N3A and 70mil N6 for bomber gun positions.

Yes AKAK I will make the Hybrid K14-N9 jabo ramp sight for you.

But, what is being used for a photobucket location or what ever these days so I can link these or a zip file to this Forum?

EDIT:

The Jap98 Gunsight reflector plate on the A6m2 and 5 in game are not properly to scale. Currently, center is about 10-12mil too high and the largest ring I can use natively is a 70mil if the user lowers the center down just a hair and hits F10. Other wise the only size ring I can use will be a 60mil. This precludes making the visualy complex Jap98 style reticle for use in the A6M series. There is an early AH Jap98Small two ring and cross I will remake.  The Ki61, 84 and N1K2 can use an 80mil ring sight. That will be the Japanese Type 3. The N1K2 can take up to an 100mil ring but, the 61 and 84 cannot. Seems we are better standardised across the Allied, German, Itallian and Russian gunsights then the Japanese. The Ki84 and N1K2 are more recent cockpits.

[Saxman]

Sure, go right ahead and use the Mk.VIII. It's already sized and scaled appropriately so no work needed.

As far as the Japanese sights, I'm having trouble finding data, but I THINK these sights are significantly larger than 70mil. Most of them have 5 or 6 concentric rings altogether, and depending on the scale of the inner rings could be as large as 200-250mil in diameter.

[CAP1]

Can these be converted to use with AH?  I know the old WB 2.xx gunsights could be converted over since that's what I did for my original gunsight to use in here.

I really like the P-38J and L sights.

ack-ack

seeing as you've been around these for awhile......didn't air warrior used to have an adjustable reticle on their gunsights?

[bustr]

Saxman,

From the description on the web page for the JPType98, 3 and 4 its inner ring is a P40 or F6 wing span 300yd outer ring 200yd. 50mil and 70mil. Seems a Common combination across countries.

I'll be including the historical 35mil ring and dot for the Midway F4F-4 just before the Navy got their Mk8's. Navy didn't like the 30mil ring and dot that came standard with the early N3A when they were jerry rigging them to the top of the instrument panels for the Midway fight. So they modified them to 35mil. This was right when they were converting from the telescopic tube style gunsight and a number of the Midway F4F still had holes in the windscreen for the tube.

I've got them all remade. Just need to write a readme, zip em up, and figure out how to open an account at Mediafire.

[Ack-Ack]

seeing as you've been around these for awhile......didn't air warrior used to have an adjustable reticle on their gunsights?

Yep.

ack-ack

[CAP1]

Yep.

ack-ack

that's what i thought.....it'd be kinda nice to have that agaion.......

[Saxman]

Saxman,

From the description on the web page for the JPType98, 3 and 4 its inner ring is a P40 or F6 wing span 300yd outer ring 200yd. 50mil and 70mil. Seems a Common combination across countries.

Right, but the sight itself has MORE than just the 50 and 70mil rings. The Type 98, 3 and 4 had 5-6 rings total, I believe.

[007Rusty]

  

[Ack-Ack]

Yes AKAK I will make the Hybrid K14-N9 jabo ramp sight for you.

w00t! 

ack-ack

[bustr]

Ok AKAK here is the coverted pakage of gunsights. If we get the Ki43 and 44 I will make a JPType100. AKAK from what I could research the original N2-N3 gunsights in P38's had only a 30Mil ring and dot. This was true for all aircraft that used them like P39-40 except for the Navy at Midway when they converted them to 35Mil. It was not until June/43 that N2-N3 were upgraded to a 70Mil ring and dot.

I tested this URL on a second PC. Let me know if it has any problems.

http://www.mediafire.com/bustr