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Offline batdog

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StSanta... question?
« on: July 13, 2001, 09:07:00 AM »
"Yesterday, I had a wingie for the first time in a looong time. Naturally we went about it 9./JG 54 style, which basically means going where there are too many red dots and too few green ones. We bounced a poor P-38, downing it and were then attacked by a high N1K and a high Spit. The N1K closed on me, but thanks to the fabulous new terrain, I dove behind a hill, broke hard left and down a canyon. And Hristo had taken another canyon with the Spit on his six so we sort a met up and a blew the Spit away. Later the N1K died.

In comes a hero 51. Dives for HO.

And then legs it. And legs it. And legs it. 50 miles, going across knight territory. Evetually we both have to refuel but we take off again, with the 51 now heading for friendlies. Legging it. Eventually, he gets into a lot of friendlies and because of an alt adv, does an immelman, gets himself d1.0 my 6 in a vertical dive, fires fires fires is outmaneuvered and...legs it.

XBAT is a hero ."

Whats up with the xBAT is a "Hero" statement?
I replied that I dont fly the 51... nor have I in the last two tours. Perhaps I am misunderstanding your statement?

xBAT

[ 07-13-2001: Message edited by: batdog ]
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2001, 09:41:00 AM »
Climb, get speed up, dive, shoot, run, climb, get speed up, dive, shoot, run...This is the only offensive ACM p51:s know and it works only for slow, or unaware targets.

When theyre in defending situation, it goes like this: Dive until 500mph, level 5 minutes, zoom, climb (continues to offensive).

Sadly, they act like stupid AI:s, when theyre at low alt, as they try to go defensive, but hit the ground! Sometimes in low alt situation they dont even respond to fire as they just do some lazy rolls and arcs. Ofcourse, theres might be some pilots that actually do something outside of that routine, but havent met any yet..  :D
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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2001, 01:39:00 PM »
After reading these two posts, all I can say is just fly the way you want and let others do the same. You wouldn't want YOUR tactics dictated by an enemy so why do it to them?

Sheesh this is a game, just have fun and don't worry about what the other guy does.  ;)

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And no I wasn't involved in this. I haven't been in the MA for a while now other than a brief look see.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2001, 01:43:00 PM »
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StSanta said (some time ago):

Yesterday, I had a wingie for the first time in a looong time. Naturally we went about it 9./JG 54 style, which basically means going where there are too many red dots and too few green ones. We bounced a poor P-38, downing it and were then attacked by a high N1K and a high Spit. The N1K closed on me, but thanks to the fabulous new terrain, I dove behind a hill, broke hard left and down a canyon. And Hristo had taken another canyon with the Spit on his six so we sort a met up and a blew the Spit away. Later the N1K died.
In comes a hero 51. Dives for HO.

And then legs it. And legs it. And legs it. 50 miles, going across knight territory. Evetually we both have to refuel but we take off again, with the 51 now heading for friendlies. Legging it. Eventually, he gets into a lot of friendlies and because of an alt adv, does an immelman, gets himself d1.0 my 6 in a vertical dive, fires fires fires is outmaneuvered and...legs it.

XBAT is a hero ."

 
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Then XBAT said:

Whats up with the xBAT is a "Hero" statement?
I replied that I dont fly the 51... nor have I in the last two tours. Perhaps I am misunderstanding your statement?

StSanta's text is taken from another thread.  XBat isn't discussing strategy, only wondering why his name was attatched to the scenario StSanta described.

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[ 07-13-2001: Message edited by: AKDejaVu ]
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Offline batdog

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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2001, 02:14:00 PM »
Hehe... aye. Thank you AKDejaVu.  :)I guess I should of made the quote text into bold print...lol.

xBAT

P.S. Sure is easy to get pep's going though...myself included often,lol.
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Offline Nifty

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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2001, 02:55:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Tuomio:
Climb, get speed up, dive, shoot, run, climb, get speed up, dive, shoot, run...This is the only offensive ACM p51:s know and it works only for slow, or unaware targets.

When theyre in defending situation, it goes like this: Dive until 500mph, level 5 minutes, zoom, climb (continues to offensive).

Sadly, they act like stupid AI:s, when theyre at low alt, as they try to go defensive, but hit the ground! Sometimes in low alt situation they dont even respond to fire as they just do some lazy rolls and arcs. Ofcourse, theres might be some pilots that actually do something outside of that routine, but havent met any yet..   :D


What else would YOU do flying a Pony?  Would you break and turn?  I drool when I see a pony make a flat turn and bleed all his precious speed.  He's gonna be a dead pony soon enough, just a matter of which one of my mates will get him first!   :D
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2001, 09:45:00 PM »
Why Nifty? Are you flying a Spit/Yak/N1K1 type of plane?
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2001, 02:10:00 PM »
Sorry that it's taken me a bit to reply - been outta town.

XBAT; I believe it was you we hunted around: at least it was you who commented about it a bit   :D. I might have mistaken you for another X_something and if that's the case I apologize.

Edit: seems it was XAKSL or something like that. My apologies for that comment.

THAT guy is my hero  :D

[ 07-16-2001: Message edited by: StSanta ]
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Offline batdog

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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2001, 06:37:00 AM »
No problem,  :) .

xBAT
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2001, 07:16:00 AM »
Guess I need to let nifty get a good shot in a bit more often, sounds like he's getting hungry!

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