German AC on the eastern front.

[Guppy35]

109G-14's performance envelop looks geared for eastern front, so it's safe to say it saw service in the eastern front.

190D-9 saw action against red army, former stuka pilot from the eastern front Hans Rudel flew 190d-9 and shot dow 9 red army fighters.

I think folks get this idea that the D9 was in action for a long time when it really wasn't.  Seems like October 44 was when the first 30 were assigned to JG26.  7 months of Ops.

That being said, considering where the front lines where, no doubt they ran into Russian birds

[Squire]

The thing to keep in mind is not to overstate the sortie ratio vs the Russians. Most of the Me 262s and Me 163s as well as the Fw 190D-9s and late model 109s were sortied against the Western Allied bomber streams and Tac Air Forces. Yes they saw action vs the VVS but the Soviets were not the main target of the "high end" LW fighters. From Normandy untill wars end the bulk of the LW faced west and flew in that direction, with the caveats mentioned already in the responses above.

[oakranger]

In one of his books Steinhoff described a dogfight vs a bunch of soviet fighters, him being in a Me 262. He didn't manage to get any kills though.
Oh, and the days of the I-16 were long gone in 1945

Interesting, did the 262 have any victories in the Eastern front?

If you want - I can provide you with the dispositions of the various JGs on both fronts, including the aircraft types on hand.

Hermann Graf's last mount was a K-4, Hartmann definitely flew a G-10 up to his 350th kill, although there's strong evidence he was flying a G-14/AM around October of '44 and a K-4 at the end of the war (by Hartmann's own account, so don't shoot the messenger). That being said, no photos of Hartmann's K-4 are known to exist. There's an interesting blog entry from a fellow Luftwaffe researcher that offers a viable explanation... http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2010/06/hartmanns-last-109s.html

The D-9s providing cover for the 262s of JG44 was actually a small group, the Sachsenberg-Schwarm or Papagei Staffel. These were the red-underbelly Doras we often see in the game.

As others have said, by the time Stab/JG301 received their Ta-152s, there really was no Eastern/Western front as far as air operations were concerned. Herr Reschke in a Ta-152 shot down a Tempest and 2 Yak-9s in the days of the war, so....

163s operated from Brandis...D-9s were active on both fronts, 262s were all over as well, and yes, they were used operationally with 234s on the bridge attacks at Remagen. 234s operated in Norway, with aircraft from Einskdo 1/(damn filter) F.A.Gr1 and KG 76 being stationed there....

Pretty amazing to think about it really - many of these aircraft arriving so late in the war and ending up where they did.

J

That for clearing that up.  So basically most late war German AC where seeing action in the Eastern, Western Southern and Northern front.  Minus the 163 that cover western front. 

[Karnak]

I seem to recall at least one Soviet ace claimed a 262 kill.

[oakranger]

I seem to recall at least one Soviet ace claimed a 262 kill.

Be interesting to find out.

[pipz]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Nikitovich_Kozhedub

[Imowface]

K-4's did see action on the eastern fron with JG-3, but it should also be noted that most units were only partially equiped with K-4's, many units were flying G-14's and G-10's, aswell as K-4's

[JHerne]

There are several accounts of Luftwaffe pilots preferring the G-10 to the K-4 and the G-14.

The G-14 actually entered service before the G-10 and if I remember correctly (its late and I'm not looking it up) it was the fastest of the lot.

J

[Imowface]

G-10 was sort of a Frankenstein 109, had the engine of a K-4, but allot of G-10's had different parts, Ie. some had the older shorter ruder and vertical stab, while some had the new Taller ones,
some had a short tailwheel while others had the long one, the G-10 was meant to do the same thing as the K-4, Standardize the 109, but like the G-6 and G-14, it also did not succeed

[Perrine]

anyone here knows what other types of 109s did Erich Hartmann use?

[Imowface]

G-6,G-14, Possible F-4 and G-2

[STEELE]

Imagine trying to wrestle our Doras in a slow circle above a 262 base! The pilots would have went nuts and demanded Antons. Of course all 190A starting with A6 had a redesigned wing, was lighter and just over a foot longer span, meant to keep it competitive with the turn radius and rate of the A5, since they had heavier cowl guns and slightly increased armor

[STEELE]

*edit* (not sure if our A8 or F8 has this lengthened, lighter wing of the real A6-A9 models, best guess would be No)

[MiloMorai]

Imagine trying to wrestle our Doras in a slow circle above a 262 base! The pilots would have went nuts and demanded Antons. Of course all 190A starting with A6 had a redesigned wing, was lighter and just over a foot longer span, meant to keep it competitive with the turn radius and rate of the A5, since they had heavier cowl guns and slightly increased armor

The A-6 wing had the same wing span as the A-3.

[MiloMorai]

There are several accounts of Luftwaffe pilots preferring the G-10 to the K-4 and the G-14.

The G-14 actually entered service before the G-10 and if I remember correctly (its late and I'm not looking it up) it was the fastest of the lot.

J

The K-4 (mid Oct '44) entered service slightly before the G-10.