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Offline Slash27

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Re: One arena weekend
« Reply #60 on: October 26, 2010, 08:35:10 PM »
Shhhhhh, he is from Texas  ;)
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Re: One arena weekend
« Reply #61 on: October 27, 2010, 11:17:44 AM »
uumm....could it have something to do with those that wield the bansticks watching?
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Re: One arena weekend
« Reply #62 on: October 27, 2010, 12:32:16 PM »
lol so many non-americans here now they can't fathom folks who are true Americans.  :D
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Re: One arena weekend
« Reply #63 on: October 27, 2010, 05:36:59 PM »
Interesting to long on last night and see the complaining going on about hordes and no decent fights.  Considering it was TT and what most folks claim is the answer to all of the AH world problems, I was surprised at the intensity of that griping.

regardless of what side you were on, the fights were one sided horde wars to take bases.  There seemed little interest in air combat other then the occasional 'go to the DA" if you want a fair fight comments.

We used to blame the ills of AH on the 'kids' during the summer months. It's not summer.  The game play has definitely changed which makes me wonder if the interests of the average MA goer have changed now as well.

After listening to Soulyss sounding so discouraged last night, I really began to wonder if the game has drifted in a direction many of us old timers just don't get anymore. 

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« Reply #64 on: October 27, 2010, 05:39:51 PM »
Interesting to long on last night and see the complaining going on about hordes and no decent fights.  Considering it was TT and what most folks claim is the answer to all of the AH world problems, I was surprised at the intensity of that griping.

regardless of what side you were on, the fights were one sided horde wars to take bases.  There seemed little interest in air combat other then the occasional 'go to the DA" if you want a fair fight comments.

We used to blame the ills of AH on the 'kids' during the summer months. It's not summer.  The game play has definitely changed which makes me wonder if the interests of the average MA goer have changed now as well.

After listening to Soulyss sounding so discouraged last night, I really began to wonder if the game has drifted in a direction many of us old timers just don't get anymore. 


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Re: One arena weekend
« Reply #65 on: October 27, 2010, 05:55:43 PM »
Its a new age old timer  :D

Could be.  I don't know that it's necessarily a better age.  But again the bottom line is the player base.  The number of players paying to play makes a difference. 

To me the one arena filled to the brim creates an anonymity that is harder to get in an arena with smaller numbers.  It's easier for the 'community' to police itself then.  One large group of players is less inclined to play the game in a way that is detrimental to the rest of the players in that arena.  You know who is doing what and there can be a, for lack of a better way to say it, peer pressure to think beyond the tip of your own nose in terms of game play.

One of the things that seems to have changed is the idea of interacting with other players regardless of chess piece.  Now it's you and 90 of your closest friends in your three squad wing, focused on just that group.  Note that the whines about caps generally include  "I can't fly with my squad!"  I've yet to see a whine that includes "I don't get to fly against the guys I like to fly against."  I believe there was a time when folks thought that way.  You knew who would give you the best fights and wanted to fly against them.  It didn't have to be 'go to the DA" if you want a fight

I think from reading what Hitech has said in the past, he has a concern for that social aspect of the game and at what point that gets lost in the numbers game.
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Re: One arena weekend
« Reply #66 on: October 27, 2010, 06:07:52 PM »
Could be.  I don't know that it's necessarily a better age.  But again the bottom line is the player base.  The number of players paying to play makes a difference. 

To me the one arena filled to the brim creates an anonymity that is harder to get in an arena with smaller numbers.  It's easier for the 'community' to police itself then.  One large group of players is less inclined to play the game in a way that is detrimental to the rest of the players in that arena.  You know who is doing what and there can be a, for lack of a better way to say it, peer pressure to think beyond the tip of your own nose in terms of game play.

One of the things that seems to have changed is the idea of interacting with other players regardless of chess piece.  Now it's you and 90 of your closest friends in your three squad wing, focused on just that group.  Note that the whines about caps generally include  "I can't fly with my squad!"  I've yet to see a whine that includes "I don't get to fly against the guys I like to fly against."  I believe there was a time when folks thought that way.  You knew who would give you the best fights and wanted to fly against them.  It didn't have to be 'go to the DA" if you want a fight

I think from reading what Hitech has said in the past, he has a concern for that social aspect of the game and at what point that gets lost in the numbers game.

Nice post but that being said, I rarely see you or any 80th (other than Cactus and the occasional Soulyss) in the DA mixing it up in the style of fight that you guys pine for so greatly on the bbs.  If you want the fight, you should head off to the DA more frequently.  If you want the MA environment, you need to take the good with the bad.

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Re: One arena weekend
« Reply #67 on: October 27, 2010, 06:13:53 PM »
To me the one arena filled to the brim creates an anonymity that is harder to get in an arena with smaller numbers.  It's easier for the 'community' to police itself then.

Whoa...

The absolute worst environment in terms of social behaviour I have encountered in AH during my years was without exception in small, low populated arenas.

For some time AvA and for a very, very long time the EW had been very(!) unfriendly places.
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Re: One arena weekend
« Reply #68 on: October 27, 2010, 06:14:06 PM »
Nice post but that being said, I rarely see you or any 80th (other than Cactus and the occasional Soulyss) in the DA mixing it up in the style of fight that you guys pine for so greatly on the bbs.  If you want the fight, you should head off to the DA more frequently.  If you want the MA environment, you need to take the good with the bad.
I have to agree with Grizz here mostly about the DA stuff  :salute Corky
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Re: One arena weekend
« Reply #69 on: October 27, 2010, 06:28:16 PM »
Nice post but that being said, I rarely see you or any 80th (other than Cactus and the occasional Soulyss) in the DA mixing it up in the style of fight that you guys pine for so greatly on the bbs.  If you want the fight, you should head off to the DA more frequently.  If you want the MA environment, you need to take the good with the bad.

It isn't about the 80th or myself Grizz.  That misses the point.  I know you want to be right about this stuff, and frankly your approach to it, is the way the game has gone.  Whether it's right or not remains to be seen.  I'm at the point where my flying time is such that I take the good with the bad.  I can't get worked up about it anymore.  That doesn't mean I don't have some thoughts on it.

My point was that that with a large map and large numbers, there is no motivation to interact with folks beyond your 3 wing squad.  There little to no ability for the community to police itself and gameplay.  That wasn't always the case.  I do believe that's the  social part of the game that Hitech has referred to in the past when talking about numbers in one arena.

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Re: One arena weekend
« Reply #70 on: October 27, 2010, 06:58:02 PM »
It isn't about the 80th or myself Grizz.  That misses the point.  I know you want to be right about this stuff, and frankly your approach to it, is the way the game has gone.  Whether it's right or not remains to be seen.  I'm at the point where my flying time is such that I take the good with the bad.  I can't get worked up about it anymore.  That doesn't mean I don't have some thoughts on it.

My point was that that with a large map and large numbers, there is no motivation to interact with folks beyond your 3 wing squad.  There little to no ability for the community to police itself and gameplay.  That wasn't always the case.  I do believe that's the  social part of the game that Hitech has referred to in the past when talking about numbers in one arena.

Cmon now, most players in the game play in one wing squadrons.  This is a massive exaggeration.  

The game is very social actually, just not the type of eutopia that you wish it were.  If we are going to be throwing out HiTech quotes, I will add that he has said in the past, that the object of the game is to piss off the enemy, which goes against a lot of what you say in regards to how you should approach combat in the main arena.

So why do you not ever head over to the DA for fights?  There are frequently groups of players participating in fun & fair fights on the deck that are quick to get to and the best action you could possibly see.  That is where I get my fair fights and competition.  The MA is basically just a bunch of brainless seagulls flying around cawing at eachother.  It's fun to see how many seagulls you can kill before you have 10 seagulls cawing and chasing you away.  

There also are other events that are held in the spirit of the fight such as King of the Hill and Baldeagl's Tournament that you might want to check out.  Those of us that do enjoy the fight participate in them regularly.  :salute

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Re: One arena weekend
« Reply #71 on: October 27, 2010, 07:00:20 PM »
Cmon now, most players in the game play in one wing squadrons.  This is a massive exaggeration.  


mhhh... I feel another chart coming up  :D

EDIT:
Quick check on EW, MW & LW Squads:

Squads with 1 wing:  236
Squads with 2 wings:  12
Squads with 3 wings:    2
Squads with 4 wings:    2
Squads with 5 wings:    1
Squads with 8 wings:    1

Most wings in the "multi" squads are not filled up at all. The biggest squad with 8 wings has 15 players per wing.
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Re: One arena weekend
« Reply #72 on: October 27, 2010, 07:41:30 PM »

mhhh... I feel another chart coming up  :D
you have more? :huh  keep them coming i think i have all the others copied out next to my desk here  :)
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« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2010, 07:45:37 PM »
you have more? :huh  keep them coming i think i have all the others copied out next to my desk here  :)

Makes me wonder: Who's the bigger nerd? The one compiling all that useless stuff, or the one printing it out?   :headscratch: :uhoh
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« Reply #74 on: October 27, 2010, 07:47:49 PM »
Makes me wonder: Who's the bigger nerd? The one compiling all that useless stuff, or the one printing it out?   :headscratch: :uhoh
:lol you got me  :D
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