Spit 14, a little something more

[BrownBaron]

and don't forget that 109K has 10 minute wep and only 5 minute wep for spit 14

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Does this look like a plane that deserves perk?

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So you have proven that a K4 has a speed advantage. I could easily rebutt with the fact that the Spit14 has a solid turn rate advantage.

[Lusche]

So you have proven that a K4 has a speed advantage. I could easily rebutt with the fact that the Spit14 has a solid turn rate advantage.

So that makes a plane perk worthy?

[Krusty]

It is still as perk-worthy as before, it's simply that nobody wants to talk about perking the 2 planes that perform just as well or better than the 14, that have since been added. And yes IMO those hispanos do account for part of the perk... Were it a less lethal package (4x .50s for example?) you'd definitely see no perk, no matter how well it climbed/ran.

[Guppy35]

I'd like a Spitfire FR.XIV just for the extra fuel and the bubble canopy. Since a good many of them had clipped wings, it would be SO unstable but it would have pretty decent performance!

Never going to happen but it's nice to have a longer-ranged high-performance Spitfire.

The clipped birds were mostly post war Pappy.  I've only seen a couple of photos of FRXIVs flown by the Canadiens and it was very end of the war if not during occupation duty.  The XIVs delivered to the CBI were full span and the majority of the XIVs in the ETO were full span wing birds.

[Imowface]

I will be honest, yes my info may be a bit off, I just saw some photos, and a little text bit on the side of the pictures talking about the spit 14, I will go buy a real book about late war/griffon powered spitfires and come back with real numbers and facts, can anyone point me in the right direction?

[VonMessa]

The plane is uber. Leave it as is. Would you want HTC to add a bigger engine to the K4? What I thought.


perdweeb

hmmmmmm       

[Karnak]

It is still as perk-worthy as before, it's simply that nobody wants to talk about perking the 2 planes that perform just as well or better than the 14, that have since been added. And yes IMO those hispanos do account for part of the perk... Were it a less lethal package (4x .50s for example?) you'd definitely see no perk, no matter how well it climbed/ran.

You claim this all the time, yet you have NEVER been able to support the claim and always resort to mystical "Its just better." crap when it is pointed out that you are wrong.

In every measurable way, the Spitfire Mk XIV's outcomes are inferior to many free aircraft.

[VonMessa]

You claim this all the time, yet you have NEVER been able to support the claim and always resort to mystical "Its just better." crap when it is pointed out that you are wrong.

In every measurable way, the Spitfire Mk XIV's outcomes are inferior to many free aircraft.

Are these results factoring the pilot into the equation?

[Imowface]

Which free planes climb better then the Spitfire Mk.XIV?

[Karnak]

Are these results factoring the pilot into the equation?

Yes.  Being a perk plane, the Spitfire XIV should, like all other perk planes, have a significantly higher K/D ratio due to those flying it, its raw capability and people being cautious because they paid perk points for it.  It does not and never has had a K/D ratio above all free fighters, unlike any other perk fighter.

Which free planes climb better then the Spitfire Mk.XIV?

That has nothing to do with my comment.  I was speaking of outcomes.  The Bf109K-4 climbs better in some ways, due to having twice the WEP duration.  That doesn't matter though, what matters is the outcomes and the Bf109K-4, despite being flown by a far wider selection of players, has a much more positive outcome.

[Imowface]

So in your oppinion, should the Spit 14 stay perked?

[Karnak]

So in your oppinion, should the Spit 14 stay perked?

Yes, with the qualifier that it should also be given 150 octane fuel and raised to +21lbs boost.

If it stays on 100 octane fuel at +18lbs boost I can't see any justification for it being perked when something like the Bf109K-4 is not only not perked, but not even particularly low ENY.

[Kazaa]

Yea drop the perks. While we're at it, add a 20mm P-51, oh and if we can find room a B-29. Let us not forget the F4U-4C and also the Sea Fury.

And please leave the 190A-8 and its incorrect model which has been admitted by HTC.



perdweeb

The 20mm P51 was crap, yes on the B-29, Both the F4U-4c and Sea Fury were after WW2?

Only a pansy boy would be caught dead in a 190.

[Imowface]

Yes, with the qualifier that it should also be given 150 octane fuel and raised to +21lbs boost.

If it stays on 100 octane fuel at +18lbs boost I can't see any justification for it being perked when something like the Bf109K-4 is not only not perked, but not even particularly low ENY.

okay then, I shall change my wish too:
either leave the spit 14 as is and drop the perks, of as you sudgested, give it accurate fuel, and run it at proper boost

[Karnak]

okay then, I shall change my wish too:
either leave the spit 14 as is and drop the perks, of as you sudgested, give it accurate fuel, and run it at proper boost

Both fuel types and boost settings are accurate.  Both were used operationally.