CH Control Manager, a must?

[JustEric]

I'm to the point where I need to connect my USB, CH Fighterstic, throttle and peddles to my computer.  I'm not sure how to proceed.  My guess is that the Windows 7, 64 bit OS will recognize the new hardware when I connect them and install the drivers and maybe even run me through a calibration process.  I also see that CH has their own Control Manager which probably also configures and calibrates the devices.  Then I see you can go to AH an calibrate and configure the devices again. I'm so lost. 

TilDeath is going to share some of his configuration files which might take away the burden from me doing the configuration but I still need to decide to calibrate the devices using Windows and or the CH CM. 

Any thoughts on how to set up my CH devices as simply as possible would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Eric

[Scotch]

You can just plug it in and calibrate everything in AH when you will also map your controls/buttons to your liking. I actually tried installing the CM software that just came with the stick I got, and win7 didn't like it.

[Warmongo]

You can just plug it in and calibrate everything in AH when you will also map your controls/buttons to your liking. I actually tried installing the CM software that just came with the stick I got, and win7 didn't like it.

My Windows 7 64-bit did not like it either...

[guncrasher]

 make copy of your settings folder first, then hook up one at a time, let windows find its drivers, then copy the files TD gives you into your settings folder, then go into the game and calibrate. and you are set.  that's how I did mine.  you cannot calibrate ch products using windows, at least not on my computer.

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[Bino]

CH Control Manager 4.51 works fine on my Win 7 64-bit machine.   YMMV  *shrug*

One way or another, you will need to assign Aces High commands (keystrokes) to the various buttons and switches.

[TilDeath]

I have Win 7 64bit and no issues with CH Control Manager.  I did DL the 64bit Win 7 version from CH's website.

TD

[Ack-Ack]

You are really shooting yourself in the foot if you don't use CM with your CH gear.  Sure, you can configure it by using the default buttons within AH but you are basically wasting your money by not taking advantage of CM to program your CH gear. 

BTW- Most issues related to CM are not hardware or system but rather end user and most of those issues are related to the user not knowing how to use CM.  At ch-hangar.com, you can find the CM for Dummies tutorial that will teach you how to program your stick in CH and how to create scripts for more advanced functions.  Some of the stuff you can do with CM is turn the mini-stick on the Pro Throttle into an analog 8 way hat switch or turn the mini-stick into a dual throttle. 


ack-ack

[Ghastly]

My CM gear has never seemed to calibrate properly in the Windows directly, I've always needed to use CM to get the best results.  I'm using Win 64 Pro and not had any issues with the updated version downloaded from CH.

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[Pudgie]

What Ack-Ack said.

 

[guncrasher]

ack can you give some examples of what the ch can do that in game set up doesnt?

this is the tutorial for ch http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/showthread.php?2017-Control-Manager-Tutorial

and the d/l for the program http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/showthread.php?6962-CM-Print-v4-50-Beta-1

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[guncrasher]

btw i tried to use the ch hangar, it really messed up my sticks. to the point where i cant fix them. spend close to 2 hours working on them, cant fly.  even after deleting the ch managarer  tired to reset my old setip since i had a batck of my old system, and no dice..


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[TilDeath]

btw i tried to use the ch hangar, it really messed up my sticks. to the point where i cant fix them. spend close to 2 hours working on them, cant fly.  even after deleting the ch managarer  tired to reset my old setip since i had a batck of my old system, and no dice..


semp

ACK ACK posted this for me.  The CH Control manager states you should have a little programming knowledge before using.  You don't need a lot just basic know how.  You one thing you can not do in AH is on the Pro Throttle you can turn it into an 8 way hat.  The CH Software will not screw up your stick, pedals or throttle.  If you remove the software and hardware and reboot your system your back as if you never installed it.

TD

ACK ACK's code

Script to turn the mini-stick to an 8 way hatswitch.

Just a quick note first, after you've put the script into your template click on the CMS Control tab and enter the KP view keys for Buttons 1 through 8 (B1-B8).

Now here's the script.

// CMS Script File
//
//     Game Title: Aces High II
//     Written By: Ack-Ack
//           Date: 08/07/06
//
script

%define up [js2.a2 < 128 - 40]
%define down [js2.a2 > 128 + 40]
%define left [js2.a1 < 128 - 40]
%define right [js2.a1 > 128 + 40]


// %define up [msy < 128 - db]
// %define down [msy > 128 + db]
// %define left [msx < 128 - db]
// %define right [msx > 128 + db]

%define up_key cms.b1
%define upright_key cms.b2
%define right_key cms.b3
%define downright_key cms.b4
%define down_key cms.b5
%define downleft_key cms.b6
%define left_key cms.b7
%define upleft_key cms.b8

// Test for up
if (up and not left and not right) then
up_key = TRUE;
else
up_key = FALSE;
endif

// Test for up and right
if (up and right) then
upright_key = TRUE;
else
upright_key = FALSE;
endif

// Test for right
if (right and not up and not down) then
right_key = TRUE;
else
right_key = FALSE;
endif

// Test for down and right
if (down and right) then
downright_key = TRUE;
else
downright_key = FALSE;
endif

// Test for down
if (down and not left and not right) then
down_key = TRUE;
else
down_key = FALSE;
endif

// Test for down and left
if (down and left) then
downleft_key = TRUE;
else
downleft_key = FALSE;
endif

// Test for left
if (left and not up and not down) then
left_key = TRUE;
else
left_key = FALSE;
endif

// Test for up and left
if (up and left) then
upleft_key = TRUE;
else
upleft_key = FALSE;
endif


//

endScript


ack-ack

TD

[guncrasher]

I d/l ch manager, tried to do one setting, but i made a mistake.  deleted the setting.  went to ah, all my prior settings were gone, tried to install my back settings copy up couldnt get them back.  had to reinstall my backup with acronis i had done prior to that setting.  will try again, tomorrow when i have time.  just thought it was funny, how in less than 30 seconds i messed up my whole ah set up.  this is exactly what happened last time, i tried to use the ch manager. 

semp

[Tigger29]

As a general rule, I've learned that with things I can program from within a game, I'll leave it unprogrammed in the software.  Granted, I've never used CH's stuff, but Saitek and Logitech I've done that way.

I just leave it blank and program it from within Aces High if I can.  If I require a function that Aces High doesn't support, then I program it in through the software.

Example... my Trigger is set to "Fire Primary".. easy enough to program from AH.  It is NOT programmed from the control software.  I have a button on my throttle assigned for "Toggle View."   The first press sends F3, second press F5 and third press F1.  To do this using Aces High would require programming three buttons (one for F1, one for F3, and one for F5) therefore I have to use the software.

This way, if something were to happen, my AH programming would stay intact.

[guncrasher]

Cc that td, ill try to program it again, but this time sober.  I think I had way too many last night cause I don't e en remember posting here  .


Semp