YOU CANT TOUCH ME!! AHAHAHA!

[Ping]

Ghost actually had a good idea there fleshing it out.
Squad attack on an airfield commenced by firing off their allowed limits.
Accuracy would have to be made as poor as hell though.
From a Map point of view it would be nice to go after the V1 sites and have it go to damage scores.

I also thought it was much more than 3 instances of wing tipping but
I am also spewing off the top of my head.

[Rino]

     Apparently it is too hard to fly your aircraft all the way to the target only to auger it in
during your attack run?  I have seen many instances of North American, Republic and Hawker
cruise missile missions at work 

[Meatwad]

Youth these days..................   

[AWwrgwy]

http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com/raf1945/pietrzakv1kills.html:

Date: 12-07-1944 (Friday)

Squadron: 316 (Polish)

Base: Friston

Aircraft: Mustang 111 FB378/SZ-X

Time: 07.05 Hrs / 07.42 Hrs

Area: 2 miles N.W.Appledore (Kent), height = 2500 mtrs. - N Lympne height = 1100 mtrs

Description of this day's events:
2 X V-1 Destroyed by Fl/Sgt. Alex Pietrzak. 62 V-1's destroyed by fighters during the day. (7 by 316 Squadron). Fl/Sgt. Alex Pietrzak sightedthe first diver crossing the coast at Dungeness: "Attacked from around 200 yards dead astern, closing to 100 yards. Strikes all over and Diver exploded on the ground 2 miles north west of Appledore". The second Diver exploded mid-air after accurate fire from his Mustang and caused severe damage. He reported: "The first burst of fire slowed it down and after letting off a second burst it exploded in the air and the blast damaged the propeller and the left side of my aircraft and I was obliged to bail out".
Sqn/Ldr Arct went into greater detail: "Fl/Sgt. Pietrzak in the heat of the fighting, closed in to 100 yards and opened accurate fire. He must have hit the fuses as the main bomb exploded in the air. The blast was so powerful that the Mustang lost its propeller and the wings bent to a most peculiar shape. The aircraft went out of control, fortunately, Pietrzak , a stocky, well built fellow possessed very quick reflexes. His misfortune happened at 800 yards, he had lost quite a lot of precious height and at the last moment got out to save his life. Conclusions were drawn and we introduced the rule forbidding opening fire from less than 200 yards. This distance could easily be judged both in the daytime and at night. When a fighter approached a diver from behind, which was the normal way of attacking and when he could see the red hot ring of the jet engine's nozzle, it meant the distance was right to open fire. On the other hand, firing from more than 300 yards was rather useless as the V-1 was much smaller than a normal fighter plane and it was easy to miss it from a big difference.

http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=1362:

4. Fighting the Flying bomb

The initial British defense against the flying bomb attacks was uncoordinated and ineffective. Fighter patrols attempting to intercept the missiles were poorly organized. The flying bombs were small and came in fast, at an altitude where a pilot could have trouble picking them out of the ground clutter. The altitude was also too high for light antiaircraft guns, but still low enough to evade long-range radar detection.

The first useful measure was to assign interception of the flying bombs to aircraft that had the speed to catch them, such as late-mark Supermarine Spitfires, Hawker Tempests, or Merlin-powered North American P-51s. When the new Gloster Meteor jet fighters reached operational units, they were also assigned to intercept flying bombs, though their flight endurance was less than a hour and long standing patrols were not possible. The number of flying bombs shot down by the Meteor was small, but these "kills" were played up as a propaganda measure.

While Spitfires and Tempests fought the flying bombs by day, night fighters like the De Havilland Mosquito and the new American Northrop P-61 Black Widow fought them at night. Day fighters flying at night were also able to shoot down some of the flying bombs at night, since the pulsejet engines spewed out a bright burning exhaust.

The Royal Observer Corps (ROC), the British ground-spotter network, was ordered to fire marker rockets in the direction of a flying bomb to alert air patrols. This was the first step in redirecting the network of ROC posts, radar stations, and RAF fighter control centers, or "filter rooms" as they were called, to meet the new threat.

At first, fighter pilots were careful to not approach too closely when firing on the flying bombs, since they feared that the big warhead would detonate and blast them out of the sky, but this didn't prove to be a major problem. Some learned to dive past the nose of the bomb to throw it off course, and then pilots became skilled at "tipping" a V-1 into a crash by slipping their wing underneath one of the bomb's and then rolling over. This was a tricky technique, since making physical contact could damage the fighter. The pilot had to instead generate air pressure to disrupt the V-1's flight.

 

The fighter patrols proved effective in destroying flying bombs. One fighter pilot, 24-year-old Squadron Leader Joseph Berry, destroyed a total of 60 by the end of the attacks. However, ground-based anti-aircraft defenses proved even more effective.

At the beginning of the flying bomb attacks, London was protected to the southeast by a barrier of 2,000 barrage balloons, captive balloons that trailed cables to present a hazard to low-flying aircraft, and a network of anti-aircraft guns.

Initially, neither defensive barrier made many kills. The barrage balloons did bring down a few flying bombs, though some of the V-1s were fitted with cable cutters. The anti-aircraft guns were constrained by rules of engagement designed to protect fighter patrols from "friendly fire".

In mid-July, a decision was made to move the anti-aircraft guns from the vicinity of London to the coast. This would give the guns a free field of fire, as well as hopefully let them destroy the flying bombs over water where they could not cause damage when they fell.

The relocation was no trivial matter, since the system included not only guns but also ammunition stores, communications centers and lines, control centers, and all the other elements of an air defense network. To compound matters, the anti-aircraft gun network had just completed one reorganization, which involved replacement of older manually-aimed weapons with new power-assisted guns.

The move was performed with impressive efficiency. The plan was submitted on 13 July 1944; the first heavy anti-aircraft guns were in operation in their new sites on 17 July; and the light guns were all in place by 19 July.

American anti-aircraft gun batteries soon joined in the defensive belt. Even more significantly, the Americans introduced two new wonders of technology to the battle that proved to be particularly effective. The first was was the "SCR-548" gun-laying radar, which was used in conjunction with an analog computer to automatically track and fire on aerial intruders.

The second was the radio proximity fuze, which allowed a shell to explode when it came to within a certain radius of a target, rather than being detonated by a time fuze set before firing. The V-1's straight and level path made it a relatively easy target for the new automated anti-aircraft gun system, and as gun crews became more experience with their new tools, the number of kills rose dramatically.

 

All these defensive measures had been implemented in haste, and it wasn't until late August that attempts were made to improve the coordination of the fighter patrols and the gun belt. By this time, however, the Allies were overrunning V-1 launch sites in the Pas de Calais and the number of flying bomb attacks dropped dramatically.

A total of about 10,000 flying bombs had been launched against London to that time. The Germans had been setting up launch sites near Cherbourg to launch flying bombs against Plymouth and Bristol, but these sites were captured before they became operational.

wrongway

[HL117]

Heck why not ?

Might make for some good target practice on the way to target.

While HTC is at it, make it possible to launch helium balloons with a bomb tied to them.   


HL

[tassos]

There is a WW2 Onlinesim where you can start aV1 and send it to enemys field the command ist .startfau xxx xxx
I dont want to type the name of the Game cause Dale will be getting serious with me,you will find the name of the game if you search in someones profile,if you are over 10yeahrs old you will find it.
The Problem is that the V1s can be launched after 1943 and it is limited.
 

Aces High be a part of the living legend...... ™tassos

[Dichotomy]

wrongway

Interesting read... thanks 

[JHerne]

Just from reading various sources and squadron histories, it appears, based on the names of the pilots involved, that more than 3 V-1s were 'tipped'. It was, it appears, a very common practice.

9251 V-1s were launched and slightly less than 50% of them were downed by various means. We can surmise that if only 3 were 'tipped' as a means of destroying them, that it would even be mentioned in the historical record as being a 'common' or 'preferred' method of destroying them.

I have some very specific V-1 data in the archives, I'll see what I can find.

J

[Guppy35]

Terry Spencer of 41 Squadron pulled off tipping a V-1 with his clipped wing Spit XII.  "Dixie" Deans of 616 did it in a Meteor of 616.  Tadeusz Sysmanski of 316 Squadron tipped two with his Mustang III.  That's 4 right there.  Definitely done on more occasions then that, although it was not the recommended method.

The pride of my aviation history collection is the logbook of an RCAF Spit pilot who happened to be the first to down a V-1 in daylight in his Spit XIV of 91 squadron June 16, 1944.  The 91 guys ended up giving up their XIVs for IXs but were ok with it as it  got them doing something other then Diver patrols.

From talking to pilots of both 41 and 91 squadrons who flew 'Diver" Patrols in the summer of 44, it was a real chore and something they didn't want to do.  They would much have preferred to get to the continent where the action was in their eyes.

[B3YT]

tipping was not recommended as the germans started to booby trap the V1 to detonate if it was tipped .

[Scherf]

From talking to pilots of both 41 and 91 squadrons who flew 'Diver" Patrols in the summer of 44, it was a real chore and something they didn't want to do.  They would much have preferred to get to the continent where the action was in their eyes.

the anti-V-1 campaign certainly absorbed an enormous amount of Mosquito sorties. At least seven full squadrons entirely deployed against the robo-weapons, with additional "part-timers" also involved. It speaks volumes for the extent of Allied air power that so many aircraft could be diverted from covering the invasion with so little ill-effect.

[Scotty55OEFVet]

Didnt read any of the posts...but...whaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?????!!!!!?????

[JHerne]

Didnt read any of the posts...but...whaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?????!!!!!?????

So you're trolling?

[cooldued]

weeee rc rockets hay after this why not get the fritz bomb and the the flying pan cake and then that one bomb that skips on water hehehe                 

[Imowface]

  < that is what your brain looks like, shocked?