My generation..

[DEECONX]

That picture didn't break any more rules than the other pictures did.

There are plenty more photos of scantily clad women on the internets.

Yes, well the blame has still been set upon you and cat. So, until then, YOUR FAULT! 

[Reschke]

Seriously I agree and disagree on some points; I am in it with CAP in that I see it every day and have seen it fall farther down the chain of kids in less that 5 years. 5 years ago I would have said that my oldest son's group...he is now 14...were probably going to be ok; now I am not so sure and our 2nd childs friends were going to be in the tail end of that group as well. Now I see a lack of desire in kids who are 6-8 years old that shouldn't be there who think that they should get stuff just for being in the group.

[JHerne]

I think Zoom hit the nail on the head...its as much the parents' fault as it is the kids'.

I grew up in a strict, military family. I was allowed to be a kid, but there were limits, and exceeding those limits usually meant I was put back in line with a backhand. You could do that in those days. Whether you consider it right or wrong, it worked when I got my arse kicked, because I REMEMBERED later on.

Today even toddlers have Family Services on speed-dial. Kids can't be disciplined the way they used to be (and I'm not condoning abuse here by any means), and they know it. So society has basically given them the freedom to get away with as much as they can.

Now...all that being said...my daughter just turned twelve. She's an A+ student going to a private school. She plays volleyball (back-to-back conference champs this past weekend), shoots competitive archery, rides horses, volunteers at a shelter and has more money saved in the bank than I do. Fortunately, she still thinks boys are 'icky', but I'll deal with that later.

I make it a point to spend time with my kid, to teach her right from wrong. Without being a helicopter parent, I know where she is, who her friends are, and she's a happy kid. Maybe that will change as she gets older, but I honestly believe that if some of these parents spent a little more time with their kids, we wouldn't have as many problems with them as we do.

J

[CAP1]

i've long said it was parents faults......but i'm often told i'm wrong since i'm not a parent myself.

 in my case, my grandparents raised myself, and my brother. i used to think they were too tough on us.

 not that i'm old enough to know better, i thank god that they were the way they were. only wish they were still here so i could tell em.

[Lusche]

Just a thought. Most kids today are incompetent, foolish, ignorant, so on.

I have heard the same stuff 30 years ago. 

[greens]

i see ur a good kid eskimojoe, hope u help round the house <chores etc.> yep kids nowadays r lazy n no respect for elders. <S> good post kid  AND the wednesday babe thread aint dead, u guys cant take a joke from the skuzzer?  lol

[SFRT - Frenchy]

I have heard the same stuff 30 years ago. 

And it was true, look at the generation they spawned. 

[Wayout]

Just a thought. Most kids today are incompetent, foolish, ignorant, so on. Granted, there is an amount who are gifted, polite, for the most part good kids. Unfortunately, that kind of person as a whole seems to be fewer and fewer in the world, as opposed to the past.

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

                                                                -Socrates; c. 469 BC–399 BC

The youth of today is nothing new and nothing special.  Now, if you had bee a teenager in the '60s you would have some stories to tell. 

[CAP1]

I have heard the same stuff 30 years ago. 

big difference.

30 years ago, most kids left highschool with common sense. even for something as simple as driving a car. they earned their cars.

 now, most expect their parents to give em a car.........and if it's given to em, they don't appreciate it. they beat the snot outta it.

 then they do silly crap like assume the abs is there to let them tailgate in the rain. they think abs will shorten their stopping distances. they think they don't need seatbelts, because they have airbags. i've watched kids take the corner out front swinging wider than 53 foot tractor-trailers(loories to you guys over there) do. they don't know the simplest maneuver in their car. guys insist on multi-tasking, when they've no clue about their car....because they're invincible.
 girls insist on texting, doing their makeup, and fixing their hair........

 couple years ago, i was driving a flatbed tow truck. it was a gmc 6500 series(GVW 24,500). i had a ford f-150 on the back. teenage girl in a saab convertible comes screaming past me on the right(it was the shoulder, not a lane), pulls in front of me, and then slams on her brakes. i barley managed to miss her....mostly 'cause i knew what she was gonna do.

 

[Tupac]

We had 3 kids at my school take their moms 60,000 dollar mercedes for a joyride.

They took a 45 degree turn at 110 MPH and 2 of them werent wearing seatbelts, one was ejected 30 feet from the car and was knocked out, another flew threw the sunroof, and the only one wearing his seatbelt called 911.
They are very lucky noone was killed.


Their punishment? A slap on the wrist, then they bought a new mercedes a week later.

[DEECONX]

We had 3 kids at my school take their moms 60,000 dollar mercedes for a joyride.

They took a 45 degree turn at 110 MPH and 2 of them werent wearing seatbelts, one was ejected 30 feet from the car and was knocked out, another flew threw the sunroof, and the only one wearing his seatbelt called 911.
They are very lucky noone was killed.


Their punishment? A slap on the wrist, then they bought a new mercedes a week later.

Im 18, and I would've been wishing I had been ejected from the car rather than face the wrath of my parents 

[CAP1]

see? 

last two posts made my point. if they really were doing 110mph.......whelp.......i know we all did things like that, but c'mon.

[phatzo]

I hate to point the finger at a particular demographic but my 22yo sons mates that are from single mother families dont know squat about "Blokey" stuff. One of them cut his hand to pices because he didn't know how to remove a light globe and most of them have no real world skills and are basically unemployable. They all have entitlement issues (probably from living in a social security environment all their life.) and believe the government actually owes them their dole check. These are the ones we need to fear.

[CAP1]

I hate to point the finger at a particular demographic but my 22yo sons mates that are from single mother families dont know squat about "Blokey" stuff. One of them cut his hand to pices because he didn't know how to remove a light globe and most of them have no real world skills and are basically unemployable. They all have entitlement issues (probably from living in a social security environment all their life.) and believe the government actually owes them their dole check. These are the ones we need to fear.

fully agreed.....and they seem to be outnumbering the great kids that are coming up. and there are good/great kids out there........

[kilo2]

Sign of your ages. Older people have been saying this about the next generation for centuries.

Think glass half full.



The dude abides.