B29 A26 He111 and Me410

[Yeager]

the 410 will be a powerful dud.  Cool to look at and easy to kill.

[waystin2]

I ended up voting for the 410 in the 4 plane poll.  I'll admit, I really do not have a "I gotta have this plane" feeling about any of them.

[Krusty]

Somebody pulled out a lot of specs and compared them side by side... top speed, power loading, weight loading, wing area, horsepower, the plane stacks up very well against a P-38. The P-38 surely is no spitfire, but it's also not totally dogmeat.

A 410 (if modeled in-game) would be an interesting addition. No, not an uber plane, but stilll... very interesting multi-cannon setups (2x20mm, 4x20mm, 6x20mm, 8x20mm, 2x20mm+2x30mm, more). It wouldn't be very useful in scenarios, or FSOs, but it would be a great all-round MA plane.

[Karnak]

"No, the Mossie FB.VI really will dominate the Me410."

Is that a feeling or fact? While being quite close to perfomance the Me410 also has leading edge slats so despite its higher wingloading it can exceed the AoA limits the Mossie has so I'd expect these planes to be quite close in turning perfomance although the Mossie might actually be a bit worse. The Mossie VI is also optimized to lower altitudes at it is a fighter bomber so the Me410 is faster at its optimal altitude which is at 19k.

From AH Wiki on Mossie VI: While not a tank killer, the HE warheads of the 20mm Hispanos have been known to play havoc with the track or engine of a tank, or even disable their main gun."  Well, can't beat that BS...

-C+

Just a basic check on wingloading and speeds.  The Me410 is slightly faster at 19k than the Mosquito VI is at 13km but almost all fighting in AH is below 10k.  The Mosquito VI has something like 10lbs/sq.ft lower wing loading.  On the deck the Me410 was slower than the Spitfire LF.Mk IX, which makes it 20-30mph slower than the Mosquito Mk VI with ejector stacks.

Also, slats don't have that much of an effect.  The Mosquito's planned slats were omitted due to better than expected maneuverability.


As to that quote, it was true of all Hispano armed aircraft in AH when that article was written.  I would never advise anybody to strafe a tank with a Mossie in AH right now.


Mind you, I did vote for the Me410 both times so far.

[Krusty]

As to that quote, it was true of all Hispano armed aircraft in AH when that article was written.

Lotta folks don't realize how far AH has come since AH1 days. That article is probably an antique from Soda's tactics page. I'd rather the AH wiki have no info than incorrect info, but they wanted to fill it in. Oh well.

[chris3]

hello

most of my squad and i have voteted for the 410, we waiting a long time for it and we hope it will come

the he111 would be nice to but only with v1 perkpoint option to do somthing spezial with it.

b29 ok, but do we have any fighter to intercept it? only a permanently high alt ta152 patrol could handel it, or?!

cu chris3

[Squire]

B-29, thats the trouble with it from an SEA POV...we can do a 1945 Japan setup, but unless there is a strict alt restriction the thing is a monster vs the Japanese. The Ki-84 is the best IJ fighter AH will ever see and it would have a very hard time against a formation of B-29s. They are something like 60 mph faster than a B-17G <eek> and tHAZ wITH nO NUKZ!!!   

For the MA well anybody can roll a high alt speed demon so its not nearly as much of an issue.

Me 410 in SEA, ya, they can be included in late 43-mid 44 ETO setups, which are a popular time period so I can see it being used fairly often there. They would see a lot more SEA action than a B-29.

[save]

2000 perk points nukes .... mmmmmm

The B29 can not fly in formation @ max speed.

So should the other planes in formation behave too btw,

I voted for He111 since BOB is pretty much another fight without it, replacing it with Ju88's

In a competing game , both He111 and Do17 are available (and KI43, J2m2 J2m3 KI44 P38f 4*20mm KI84 FW190a4   )

[Reschke]

I dont care......I wanted a KI

+1 but just voted for Me-410 since Japanese planes didn't get into this round.

[Mister Fork]

Wouldn't it just be nice for them to add ALL FOUR aircraft to Aces High?

[Dichotomy]

Nice idea Fork

[Easyscor]

 

[ozrocker]

I just would like, regardless of plane/ model, that it would be in a chronological historical order.
Other than that, I'm ok with whatever is added.

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[Ardy123]

me410 would be a nice addition especially for the scenarios. I believe it was involved in many night time bomber raid interceptions. Could you imagine, all the lead flying all over the place, from both the me410s and all the guns on the b17s... whoooaaaa

[Ack-Ack]

me410 would be a nice addition especially for the scenarios. I believe it was involved in many night time bomber raid interceptions. Could you imagine, all the lead flying all over the place, from both the me410s and all the guns on the b17s... whoooaaaa

If it was night time bombers, it would have been Lancasters and other RAF heavy bombers not B-17s and there wouldn't be lead firing all over the place as RAF bomber gun crews were told to hold fire until absolutely necessary to avoid giving away their positions.  That's why maneuvering like using the Corkscrew evasive tactic was the primary defense for the night bombers.

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