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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2010, 04:08:12 PM »
B-29 loadouts from the manual (AN 01-20EJ-1):

80x 100lb
56x 300lb
40x 500lb
12x 1,000lb
12x 1,600lb
8x 2,000lb
4x 4,000lb


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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2010, 04:45:17 PM »
That chart though would I think only apply for the B-29A but if we get the B-29B, I think those numbers will be quite different.  Has it been said which version of the B-29 we're voting for?  Is it the A or the B or would we get the A because it was by far the largest variant produced?

If I was a player that liked to fly bombers, I would hope that it would be the B model.  It was lighter, faster and carried a larger payload at the expense of armor and defensive guns except the tail gun position.  The 20mm was also replaced by three .50 caliber machine guns.

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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2010, 06:42:35 PM »
Did the B-29B see service during the war?  The two that dropped the atomic bombs were field modified B-29As.
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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2010, 06:55:15 PM »
only thing i see with that load out you devistate a V base within mins , so i forsee someway of making Vbases alot more harder to take and even airbases. cause i know people in here probably have 1000000 bomber points saved up.  unless AH resets the bomber points to make it fair.  i mean a raid of 2-3 people in 29's can take out a vase with ease.

Where is this belief that the B-29 can take down bases in one pass coming from?  It can still only drop bombs in a strait line, just like any other bomber.  Guess what, 2 guys can drop a v-base in one pass in a B-17, or a B-26!  :O  It's not like I'm dropping most of a base in a Lancaster on one pass but am only stopped because I run out of bombs.

Also, how is resetting the bomber perks fair?  :rolleyes:
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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2010, 07:01:18 PM »
Did the B-29B see service during the war?  The two that dropped the atomic bombs were field modified B-29As.

The B-29Bs that were produced prior to the end of the war were used by the 315th Bombardment Wing in the Marianas and I believe was the only group to receive the B-29B.

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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2010, 07:13:01 PM »
Where is this belief that the B-29 can take down bases in one pass coming from?  It can still only drop bombs in a strait line, just like any other bomber.  Guess what, 2 guys can drop a v-base in one pass in a B-17, or a B-26!  :O  It's not like I'm dropping most of a base in a Lancaster on one pass but am only stopped because I run out of bombs.

Also, how is resetting the bomber perks fair?  :rolleyes:

all it takes is 2-3 guys to drop hangers rest of ords on GV's and base is toast.  if the load out is correct we are taking almost twice the payload  so what would normally take 6 lanc would only take 3 B-29's  and those that have 1000's of perks will really have no punishment for throwing away perks for a while cause they have plenty to use.

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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2010, 07:16:11 PM »
all it takes is 2-3 guys to drop hangers rest of ords on GV's and base is toast.  if the load out is correct we are taking almost twice the payload  so what would normally take 6 lanc

Wrong math. There are only 3 hangars on a VBase. If you plane has 14k or 20k it doesn't matter. 3 flights of B-29s can not kill a base more thoroughly than 3 flights of Lancs.

(And take a look at the  numbers: When loading the common 1000lbs bombs, the Lanc actually carries more than the B-29)
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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2010, 07:17:54 PM »
all it takes is 2-3 guys to drop hangers rest of ords on GV's and base is toast.  if the load out is correct we are taking almost twice the payload  so what would normally take 6 lanc would only take 3 B-29's  and those that have 1000's of perks will really have no punishment for throwing away perks for a while cause they have plenty to use.
A three flight of P-51s/38s/47s can all take out a Vbase.  Are you sure you actually play the same game as the rest of us?
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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2010, 07:44:58 PM »
A three flight of P-51s/38s/47s can all take out a Vbase.  Are you sure you actually play the same game as the rest of us?

if it so easy why isnt it being done so effectively? i agree 3 planes can take out a vbase provided its not defended.  and if 3 planes can do it , 3 people in  B-29's would could do it at 15-20k while the 3 planes might make it or might not make it.

all i know is i can see it now people whining how a hoard of 29's took out a base and defenders with ease.

3x120 = 360 X 3 500lbs bombs in a formation should clear out vh's and any gv's  in a single pass.

so thats 1080 500lbs bombs in a group of 3 bombers. that should take just about any field out. with ease

also i might add you know people are gonna be able to up and sink CV's alot easier with that much bomb load

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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2010, 07:49:47 PM »
Wrong math. There are only 3 hangars on a VBase. If you plane has 14k or 20k it doesn't matter. 3 flights of B-29s can not kill a base more thoroughly than 3 flights of Lancs.

(And take a look at the  numbers: When loading the common 1000lbs bombs, the Lanc actually carries more than the B-29)


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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2010, 07:52:19 PM »
if it so easy why isnt it being done so effectively? i agree 3 planes can take out a vbase provided its not defended.  and if 3 planes can do it , 3 people in  B-29's would could do it at 15-20k while the 3 planes might make it or might not make it.

all i know is i can see it now people whining how a hoard of 29's took out a base and defenders with ease.

3x120 = 360 X 3 500lbs bombs in a formation should clear out vh's and any gv's  in a single pass.

so thats 1080 500lbs bombs in a group of 3 bombers. that should take just about any field out. with ease

also i might add you know people are gonna be able to up and sink CV's alot easier with that much bomb load

Do you play the game?

People do shut down bases all the time, and people do whine.
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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2010, 07:53:59 PM »
if it so easy why isnt it being done so effectively? i agree 3 planes can take out a vbase provided its not defended.  and if 3 planes can do it , 3 people in  B-29's would could do it at 15-20k


So can Lancs or B-24s.


3x120 = 360 X 3 500lbs bombs in a formation should clear out vh's and any gv's  in a single pass.

so thats 1080 500lbs bombs in a group of 3 bombers. that should take just about any field out. with ease

Only if all defenders sit close to the VHs. If the bomber drops all his bombs on a single pass, the 29 will just produce a longer sting of bombs plowing the landscape.
More bombs doesn't equate more effectiveness.

But then, I constantly saw players upping their Lancs again and again for a target that didn't need that much bombs, but was well defended by fighters. When someone suggested taking a B-17 for its better survival characteristics, the answer was almost always: "But the Lanc carries more bombs!". Bombs that either never got to the target are or simply made a lot of craters, not damage.

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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2010, 08:42:28 PM »
Excellent point Lusche. 

if it so easy why isnt it being done so effectively? i agree 3 planes can take out a vbase provided its not defended.  and if 3 planes can do it , 3 people in  B-29's would could do it at 15-20k while the 3 planes might make it or might not make it.

all i know is i can see it now people whining how a hoard of 29's took out a base and defenders with ease.

3x120 = 360 X 3 500lbs bombs in a formation should clear out vh's and any gv's  in a single pass.

so thats 1080 500lbs bombs in a group of 3 bombers. that should take just about any field out. with ease

also i might add you know people are gonna be able to up and sink CV's alot easier with that much bomb load

It is being done often.

It is just as easy to drop a CV with a 17/24/26.  CVs only require around 8lbs of ord to sink it. Like Lusche said more doesn't mean more accurate.
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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2010, 08:55:25 PM »
based on the chart 30 minutes to 10k and 60 minutes to 20k @ 10k they wiill be easy prey , waiting a hour to get to 20k the base your attacking you'd have to set up missions for the 29 a hour in advance of the actual attack so they hit with the main force. 

Yes, but you still have the automated gun turrets.

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Re: B-29A - Loading and Performance for a typical mission
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2010, 09:59:54 PM »
Excellent point Lusche. 

It is being done often.

It is just as easy to drop a CV with a 17/24/26.  CVs only require around 8lbs of ord to sink it. Like Lusche said more doesn't mean more accurate.

the other way to look at it is .. more means you dont have to be as accurate too