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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2010, 07:13:53 PM »
WTF are you on about? The A380 has ten fuel tanks.

The Rolls Royce engines are also used on Boeings, should they be grounded too?

It was most likely a typo by the writer of the news article the OP posted, but other than that typo, ever notice every problem/failure with airbuses has an imediate explanation and/or rebutal of "it was deisgned to do that, our product is perfectly working as intended" before their engineers even get on the scene or even before the first letter is printed on an investigation document?


Only the A380s equipped with the Trent 972s have been recommended to be grounded.  Those with the other ('GP7000') type are unaffected.

Makes sence, the article at the time I read it though seemed to imply that all A380s were being grounded until inspections of their engines were made.
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Re: Airbus forced landing
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2010, 08:19:21 PM »
I'm guessing FOD on takeoff.  Probably took a few minutes for the turbine to fail...etc.  I'd still fly on one without worry.

Nice job by the Quantas flight crew though. 
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2010, 08:47:42 PM »
in all honesty, i never worry when i get on an airliner. as long as nothing important falls completley off, and the aircraft maintains forward speed, it can fly.
 i flew to florida on an a-320 10 days after that one landed in the hudosn river.

we're a hundred times safer in one of those giant  cigar tubes with wings, than we are in our car on the highway.
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2010, 09:10:13 PM »
It was most likely a typo by the writer of the news article the OP posted

Even your own quote said tanks so it goes down to reading comprehension more than anything else.
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2010, 03:53:42 PM »
in all honesty, i never worry when i get on an airliner. as long as nothing important falls completley off, and the aircraft maintains forward speed, it can fly.
 i flew to florida on an a-320 10 days after that one landed in the hudosn river.

we're a hundred times safer in one of those giant  cigar tubes with wings, than we are in our car on the highway.

Other than that I'm personaly a Boeing > AB guy, and in general I'm always a little uncompfy with anyone driving/flying with me as a helpless passenger - I agree, flying is one of the safest ways to travel.
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2010, 04:16:43 PM »
Even your own quote said tanks so it goes down to reading comprehension more than anything else.

I love people who begin rebutals before even reading more than half a complete sentence.  No wonder people let ABs get in the air without listening to Boeing's concerns that their products aren't as safe or developed as theirs.

"The [insert name, model and manufacturer of specific product] tanks [<- plural, as we are talking about the product series and not a single tank of the product series] are located and designed to be protected in case of such problems. The
wing [<-singular, so they are refering to a single whole wing assembley] was affected, but absolutely not the [singular->] fuel tank,".

I'm not an AB fan or expert, but I'd be willing to bet there's more than one tank in a single wing assembly.  We can also most likely, contrary to the statements from AB's public relations department, also find another tank or two along the aft fuesalage that were within LOS of the failed engine and in potential danger from a catastrophic uncontained engine failure.

Go grammar Nazi trolls that haven't finished grade school, unless you're waiting for hell to freeze over and for me to admit Airbuses are equal or superior to Boeings.
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2010, 06:31:41 PM »
Go grammar Nazi trolls that haven't finished grade school, unless you're waiting for hell to freeze over and for me to admit Airbuses are equal or superior to Boeings.

Grammar nazi's? You mean FACT nazi's. If you don't like airbus's and want to bash them, that's fine, but at least try and get the basic fact's correct. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that it would highly unlike for an aircraft of the A380's nature to have a single fuel tank.

By the way another Qantas flight reported an engine problems (bang followed by burning fuel smell) this morning, oh yes, and it was a Boeing :)

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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2010, 08:27:35 PM »
A 744 out of Singapore - Its going to be like this for a while, every QF maint issue that occurs is going to make the news

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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2010, 09:28:50 PM »
It was most likely a typo by the writer of the news article the OP posted, but other than that typo, ever notice every problem/failure with airbuses has an imediate explanation and/or rebutal of "it was deisgned to do that, our product is perfectly working as intended" before their engineers even get on the scene or even before the first letter is printed on an investigation document?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but since the engines aren't the product of Airbus... and considering the fact that the aircraft survived an uncontained engine explosion and subsequent fire and landed safely with no injuries, I'd say they are quite justified in saying their product worked as intended.
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2010, 12:40:31 AM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but since the engines aren't the product of Airbus... and considering the fact that the aircraft survived an uncontained engine explosion and subsequent fire and landed safely with no injuries, I'd say they are quite justified in saying their product worked as intended.

Sorry you're incorrect.. The engines are made by RR.. you buy the plane, then choose your engine, so a problem with one doesn't mean the other is defective as well
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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2010, 12:43:46 AM »

Go grammar Nazi trolls that haven't finished grade school, unless you're waiting for hell to freeze over and for me to admit Airbuses are equal or superior to Boeings.

Having flown both, each have their strengths and weaknesses, to say one is better than the other or worse than the other is just personal preference
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2010, 01:27:06 AM »
what engine is your 320 running?
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2010, 04:44:19 AM »
I love people who begin rebutals before even reading more than half a complete sentence.  No wonder people let ABs get in the air without listening to Boeing's concerns that their products aren't as safe or developed as theirs.

"The [insert name, model and manufacturer of specific product] tanks [<- plural, as we are talking about the product series and not a single tank of the product series] are located and designed to be protected in case of such problems. The
wing [<-singular, so they are refering to a single whole wing assembley] was affected, but absolutely not the [singular->] fuel tank,".

I'm not an AB fan or expert, but I'd be willing to bet there's more than one tank in a single wing assembly.  We can also most likely, contrary to the statements from AB's public relations department, also find another tank or two along the aft fuesalage that were within LOS of the failed engine and in potential danger from a catastrophic uncontained engine failure.

Go grammar Nazi trolls that haven't finished grade school, unless you're waiting for hell to freeze over and for me to admit Airbuses are equal or superior to Boeings.
ROFLOL! You're basing your 'expert' evaluation on an article that a layman reporter has written? I don't know which is worse this or the fact that you're trying desperately to dodge your huge single tank ASSumption blunder :facepalm:
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Re: Airbus forced landing
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2010, 05:09:20 AM »
what engine is your 320 running?


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