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MK 103 cannon
« on: November 05, 2010, 09:30:28 PM »
So what should we expect with this cannon if we get Me 410?

I think it will fire flat like Hispanos V and its got lethality of Mk 108s :x

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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2010, 10:50:31 PM »
But only about 2/3 of the MK 108's rate of fire.

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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2010, 11:24:59 PM »
btw was MK 103 ever tried on 109s?

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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 11:27:57 PM »
btw was MK 103 ever tried on 109s?

I think so, although they took it out in the production models, replacing it with the Mk 108
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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 11:33:17 PM »
It was tested with 109's, but was too large and heavy to fit well in the 109's center mount. Modified smaller version were tested, but the massive recoil caused some problems.

The trajectory will not be flat firing like a 20mm Hispano cannon. The round is both a.)travelng with considerably less muzzle velocity, and b.)much larger and heavier, meaning drag and gravity will quickly sap away the rounds momentum.
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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 11:34:00 PM »
what size is the Mk 103?
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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2010, 11:34:06 PM »
btw was MK 103 ever tried on 109s?

The 103 was too heavy & long to be used. There has been some talk of a modiefeid MK 103M version being tested in very late 109 variants, I haven't seen any conclusive proof yet that this variant has seen any combat.



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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2010, 11:34:51 PM »
what size is the Mk 103?

This size: ;)

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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2010, 11:36:57 PM »
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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2010, 11:37:37 PM »
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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2010, 11:38:21 PM »
I must have it!

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Most 410's did not feature the Mk 103 though. We may get the 410 but still not the Mk 103.
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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2010, 11:43:11 PM »
Most 410's did not feature the Mk 103 though. We may get the 410 but still not the Mk 103.

Another solid reason why we need the Hs 129.

On a side-note, that's a pretty odd mix of tracer on the belt being fed in to that gun, eh?
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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2010, 11:45:56 PM »
Another solid reason why we need the Hs 129.

Now that would be the right platform for the Mk 103!  :x
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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2010, 12:07:49 AM »
Most 410's did not feature the Mk 103 though. We may get the 410 but still not the Mk 103.

  Lusche, not to start anything but at least 2 armament loadouts have the Mk103 listed,it was a standard loadout for coastal command units and there were several hundred built.

  I'd have to search through my files to find exact numbers but Moot's old post in here has a pretty complete list of the different loadouts.

 BTW,IIRC the MV on the Mk103 is in the 900m/s range so I'd expect ballistics close to the NS37 but with somewhat less penetrating power. There was tungsten core ammo available,how much was used that I dont know.


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Re: MK 103 cannon
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2010, 12:22:06 AM »
  Lusche, not to start anything but at least 2 armament loadouts have the Mk103 listed,it was a standard loadout for coastal command units and there were several hundred built.

The number of planes produced with the 103 was still only part of total 410 production. We might just get an early 410A variant... nobody knows ...
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