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Offline maddafinga

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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2010, 03:38:08 PM »
one of the colleges around here is pushing classes on critical thinking.

 honestly......if you need a college professor to tell you how to make decisions........you lost the fight a long long time ago.

Cap, critical thinking isn't about teaching  you how to make decisions.  It's about examining thought processes and evaluating evidence, spotting flaws in reasoning and learning logic.  It's actually a really very important skill that isn't taught nearly enough in schools at any level.  http://www.criticalthinking.org/aboutCT/define_critical_thinking.cfm

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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2010, 03:55:21 PM »
Univ South Carlina offering a class on the pop signer "Lady GaGa"  and some school out west teaching a class on the whole "Twilight".   Is this useful for what?
I'll let you know at the end of next semester  :aok







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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2010, 03:59:46 PM »
I seen the most wasteful (in my mind) and pointless classes offer in a lot of colleges.  For example, Univ Virginia Tech had a class on the show "24", UVA and Univ South Carlina offering a class on the pop signer "Lady GaGa"  and some school out west teaching a class on the whole "Twilight".   Is this useful for what?
Probably sociology classes with a famous name to get attention.

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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2010, 04:20:13 PM »
Cap, critical thinking isn't about teaching  you how to make decisions.  It's about examining thought processes and evaluating evidence, spotting flaws in reasoning and learning logic.  It's actually a really very important skill that isn't taught nearly enough in schools at any level.  http://www.criticalthinking.org/aboutCT/define_critical_thinking.cfm



i kind of figured it was something like that.

what you just described though, is using common sense. well......maybe a little more than that, but it's something that should either be taught at a very young age by parents, or the battle is already lost.

 and believe me....i spend a LOT of time trying to figure out what the hell designers were thinking when they designed some of the poop i have to fix.  :D
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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2010, 04:59:10 PM »
I took a music appreciation class one year in college to offset the lab and lecture classes for anatomy, physiology, kinesiology and biomechanics, biochemistry and statisical analysis in business accounting...Best class ever because the professor had us listening to mozart, bach, et al and then he would toss in some Hendrix, Jethro Tull, Rolling Stones, Jim Morrison and would discuss how they all worked and branched from the same musical tree...I still don't understand it almost 20 years later but I really gained an appreciation for classical music in that course.
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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2010, 04:59:25 PM »
I'd like to take a class on Battlestar Engineering.

pffftt I'd like to get into some of that cylon engineering ;) if you know what I mean.

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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2010, 05:04:02 PM »
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I'll let you know at the end of next semester  :aok







Also... don't complain about colleges when your grammar and spelling is that bad :bolt:


What class are you talking?
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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2010, 05:27:40 PM »
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What class are you talking?

talking ????? :devil

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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2010, 08:00:08 PM »
talking ????? :devil

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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2010, 08:10:58 PM »
i kind of figured it was something like that.

what you just described though, is using common sense. well......maybe a little more than that, but it's something that should either be taught at a very young age by parents, or the battle is already lost.

 and believe me....i spend a LOT of time trying to figure out what the hell designers were thinking when they designed some of the poop i have to fix.  :D

I agree with you that it should be taught early and often.  I feel like much of the time parents are more interested in teaching their kids what to think, and not so much HOW to think.

What you do in problem solving mechanical problems is indeed critical thinking.  But I bet you had to be taught that and then develop it on your own.  Critical thinking classes teach the same process, but they show people how to do that with everything, not just a particular problem or area of problems.  It's a neglected but critical skill.   
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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2010, 11:21:43 PM »
Many years ago, when I attended university,  the faculty of dramatic, film, & television studies offered a seminar in ...

... Star Trek.  :D


I took part in that course (as a guest), and to the dismay of some students, it was not just about watching some old TOS episodes (Though we had the opportunity to watch "Patterns of Force", which had never been shown on German TV).
The series was thoroughly analyzed in its historic context. Precursors, topics, gender & racial issues, various cinematocraphic aspects, production,  linguistics and so on.
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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2010, 09:45:44 AM »
I agree with you that it should be taught early and often.  I feel like much of the time parents are more interested in teaching their kids what to think, and not so much HOW to think.

What you do in problem solving mechanical problems is indeed critical thinking.  But I bet you had to be taught that and then develop it on your own.  Critical thinking classes teach the same process, but they show people how to do that with everything, not just a particular problem or area of problems.  It's a neglected but critical skill.   

bolded....probably one of the smartest things i've ever read on these boards.

 on my being taught "how" to think? i never took any extra classes in shcool, and never went to college. my grandparents(they raised myself, and my brother, while mom had two fulltime jobs to support us) tended to make us figure things out for ourselves, which in hindsight, i think may be what you're talking about. it also may be a large part of the reason i can't learn "by being told" as well as i can learn "by doing", and i need "to know why" certain things have to be done certain ways.

 for my thinking processes on my diagnosis's......i never attended any form of schools for mechanics, or diagnostics. my best friend(i've known the guy for 30 years now) got me my first job in the field.
 i went through the normal progression of the "noob" at the repair shop. was given all the clean up duties, then moved on to oil changes, and tires, then to brakes......always in steps.

 my very first diagnostic job, i still remember very well(amazingly, being how long it's been). i came in expecting to do the same old crap.....some oil changes, brakes, etc.
 dickie throws me the keys to a ford tempo. it was a "no-start". he told me to push it in, and figure it out. i told him i didn't know how yet. he said he didn't care, now was the time.
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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2010, 09:50:23 AM »
Cap, critical thinking isn't about teaching  you how to make decisions.  It's about examining thought processes and evaluating evidence, spotting flaws in reasoning and learning logic.  It's actually a really very important skill that isn't taught nearly enough in schools at any level.  http://www.criticalthinking.org/aboutCT/define_critical_thinking.cfm



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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2010, 11:53:00 AM »
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What class are you talking?
Next semester is my last semester at University of South Carolina, I don't actually intend on taking the Lady Gaga class. Even if I did, it is only open to Sociology Majors. I do have a friend that is planning on taking it.

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Re: Have some colleges gone off the deep end?
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2010, 12:06:06 PM »
Next semester is my last semester at University of South Carolina, I don't actually intend on taking the Lady Gaga class. Even if I did, it is only open to Sociology Majors. I do have a friend that is planning on taking it.


Ah, fill me in on the class.  It was my understanding that the instructor wrote a book on Lady Gaga and a huge fan of her.  Bet he would invite her to a class. 
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