Have some colleges gone off the deep end?

[maddafinga]

bolded....probably one of the smartest things i've ever read on these boards.

 on my being taught "how" to think? i never took any extra classes in shcool, and never went to college. my grandparents(they raised myself, and my brother, while mom had two fulltime jobs to support us) tended to make us figure things out for ourselves, which in hindsight, i think may be what you're talking about. it also may be a large part of the reason i can't learn "by being told" as well as i can learn "by doing", and i need "to know why" certain things have to be done certain ways.

 for my thinking processes on my diagnosis's......i never attended any form of schools for mechanics, or diagnostics. my best friend(i've known the guy for 30 years now) got me my first job in the field.
 i went through the normal progression of the "noob" at the repair shop. was given all the clean up duties, then moved on to oil changes, and tires, then to brakes......always in steps.

 my very first diagnostic job, i still remember very well(amazingly, being how long it's been). i came in expecting to do the same old crap.....some oil changes, brakes, etc.
 dickie throws me the keys to a ford tempo. it was a "no-start". he told me to push it in, and figure it out. i told him i didn't know how yet. he said he didn't care, now was the time.
 i spent a day and a half on that car, and to this day, it is the only car that ever beat me.

Well you see that your progression from a noob to an experienced mechanic was a walk down that same path.  They put you into more complex systems as you showed mastery of the more simple systems.  You figured out and mastered systems of greater complexity and used that knowledge and process of gaining it as a building block to master more difficult problems. 

Obviously the main problem with that first car you tried to diagnose was that it was a Tempo in the first place man. 

[CAP1]

Well you see that your progression from a noob to an experienced mechanic was a walk down that same path.  They put you into more complex systems as you showed mastery of the more simple systems.  You figured out and mastered systems of greater complexity and used that knowledge and process of gaining it as a building block to master more difficult problems. 

Obviously the main problem with that first car you tried to diagnose was that it was a Tempo in the first place man. 

 

ain;t that the truth!!

 

[SmokinLoon]

I took a class while attending college (Morningside College in Sioux City, IA) called "Human Sexuality".  It was a 3 credit class that dealt with the both the psychology and physical aspects our sexuality.  There was an option to make that class worth 4 credits by taking the "advanced" option and meeting for an additional 1.5 hours of discussion and completing extra coursework.  The 4th credit did not transfer and did not count towards graduation credits unless the minimums were met.  Basically, it was only recognized by the college.  Oh, I took the 4 credit option and we simply watched pRon and read some kinky novels and commented on the differences in the sexes, etc.  Fun stuff.  There were about 10 of us in the advanced option, and I was 1 of 3 guys.      

[alskahawk]

 Most of those classes are elective and low credit points. As for Lady Gaga or 24, a most major Universities teach theater and film. I did a class last summer called film analysis. It was a pain in the backside. Two papers every week then a mid term and final paper. 

[Raptor]

Ah, fill me in on the class.  It was my understanding that the instructor wrote a book on Lady Gaga and a huge fan of her.  Bet he would invite her to a class. 

Actually there is talk already of them trying to get her to come. I doubt she will, although perhaps the student ran productions could try to get her to come perform here

[oakranger]

Actually there is talk already of them trying to get her to come. I doubt she will, although perhaps the student ran productions could try to get her to come perform here

I bet if they offer her money she would show up. 

[Perrine]

Oh, I took the 4 credit option and we simply watched pRon and read some kinky novels and commented on the differences in the sexes, etc.  Fun stuff.  There were about 10 of us in the advanced option, and I was 1 of 3 guys.    

did they also make you watch 2D porn (a.k.a. hentai)?

[trax1]

one of the colleges around here is pushing classes on critical thinking.

 honestly......if you need a college professor to tell you how to make decisions........you lost the fight a long long time ago.

At DeVry "Critical Thinking & Problem Solving" is a mandatory class you have to take, usually it's one of the very first classes you'll take there.

[hlbly]

Cap, critical thinking isn't about teaching  you how to make decisions.  It's about examining thought processes and evaluating evidence, spotting flaws in reasoning and learning logic.  It's actually a really very important skill that isn't taught nearly enough in schools at any level.  http://www.criticalthinking.org/aboutCT/define_critical_thinking.cfm

I don't believe it is taught at all anymore .

[Shuffler]

I find it more worrisome that they have so many teachers that are almost impossible to understand. I've seen some with really thick accents. You should not be able to teach here if your accent is too heavy.

[guncrasher]

I find it more worrisome that they have so many teachers that are almost impossible to understand. I've seen some with really thick accents. You should not be able to teach here if your accent is too heavy.

that reminds me of my algebra class 4 years ago.  the main  complain about the teacher from those who didnt get a decent grade was that they couldn't understand her.  She was from the south and had a really bad accent. but she was pretty cool and smart.   I have also had an English teacher from England and boy she was hard to understand.  there's lots of teacher that have some kind of speech impediment, should we get rid of them too?  we would lose some great minds in our colleges if your rule was followed.


semp

[SWkiljoy]

Good point.  Just seem like a wast of a class to have.  Wonder if there is a class in Texas that will offer a class about AH.   

  We are doomed!! The new era of noob pilots draws near       

Long live the squeakers! 

[Shuffler]

that reminds me of my algebra class 4 years ago.  the main  complain about the teacher from those who didnt get a decent grade was that they couldn't understand her.  She was from the south and had a really bad accent. but she was pretty cool and smart.   I have also had an English teacher from England and boy she was hard to understand.  there's lots of teacher that have some kind of speech impediment, should we get rid of them too?  we would lose some great minds in our colleges if your rule was followed.


semp

Great minds are useless if they can't transfer that knowledge through speech.


I also am not sure about the great minds being professors in colleges. While there are some teaching, many are in the business sector.

[Raptor]

I bet if they offer her money she would show up. 

Right now our student population is POed that they paid Jenny Sanford $15,000 to give a 30 minute speach, then have 45 minutes of her signing books, meanwhile our tuition has recently gone up because of her husband (ex) taking away education funds in SC.

However if they gave lady gaga money to perform, sold tickets to pay for it instead of free student tickets (as per usual), and also had her come into the class. I feel that would be successful, more young people interested in Lady Gaga than a politician's ex wife.

[CAP1]

ok....lets test critical thinking.

my boomarang won't come back.