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Offline dirtdart

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The dweeb from dweebistan
« on: November 16, 2010, 10:26:51 AM »
To preface this post, I state this.  I believe there are no dweeb planes, just dweeb pilots.  There is not a single plane in the planeset that is the perfect ride which affords it's occupant a decided advantage REGARDLESS OF THE SKILL LEVEL OF THE PILOT.   I define being a dweeb as the guy who HOs on a 1 v 1 merge (I don't get the desire to open the fight on a 50-50 move, then not try to fly to a position of advantage.  That is about it.  Picking (have better SA).  Vulching (don't up from a capped field).  Ramming (read the TA pages on the collision model). 

I personally fly the K4, which now seems to be considered as a "dweeb ride".  This I can't figure because it does not turn at high speed, it compresses.  The MGs hit hard offline, not so much online, and the MK108 is very difficult to learn and become proficient.  The plane has horrible low speed handling due to enormous torque.  It bleeds E like a severed limb.  To prove a point, in the offline area get a Brewster to 200 indicated off the runway and pull vertical  at no more than 3gs.  Try the same in a K4 with a 1000HP advantage.  You will find they stall at similar altitudes, right around 2k.  (Krusty, Lusche, and others who will frown on my unscientific experiment...bah its the best I can conjure as I don't have the CD for a K4).  Its real advantages are in climb rate and speed, that is about it. 

OK... so I am reading across the boards, this is a dweeb plane, that is a dweeb plane.  Add to that a colorful conversation on 200 and country the other day about "dweeb" planes, so now I pose this question. What are the generally accepted "non-dweeb" rides?  What plane, if you see someone land several kills in a sortie you go damn, that's cool? 

My personal are:

38s...I can't fight them, too impatient.
K4...see above screed
SpitI/HurriI/P40s/P39s 

Please throw your two cents in.......



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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 10:34:10 AM »
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 10:39:42 AM »
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 10:41:59 AM »
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 10:44:30 AM »
believe it or not i have seen people land kills in a C-47!

now that was impressive!
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 10:45:27 AM »
Spit16...no really

If you fly it right, its like any other plane, No HOs, no intentional rams.

Its all about the pilot and what he does with his aircraft.









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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 10:48:16 AM »
I personally fly the K4, which now seems to be considered as a "dweeb ride".  This I can't figure because it does not turn at high speed, it

The only people that think this are those that do not have the required skill to kill in it.  

The popular excuses are "If only I could aim in it, If only I could see in it!  :cry"

Until I see more people dominating in it, I will assume it is a 20eny skill plane.

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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 10:53:08 AM »
 P38     Big target in profile view
 P47-D11 D25 or D40 All Big targets, Extremly Slow when loaded down
  those are my two favorites to fly but i dont limit myself to a few planes, i seem to be drawn to the high Eny planes mostly  :joystick:
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 10:55:02 AM »
believe it or not i have seen people land kills in a C-47!

now that was impressive!

I landed 2 kills in a c47 after 2 ponies caught me on the deck and jumped me. I was able to maneuver till both finally augered into the trees. It pays to not give up hope when in a bad predicament.
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2010, 10:58:08 AM »
I landed 2 kills in a c47 after 2 ponies caught me on the deck and jumped me. I was able to maneuver till both finally augered into the trees. It pays to not give up hope when in a bad predicament.

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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2010, 10:59:53 AM »
Depends on run....

Porkin.................p38L
defending............hurri 2C
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2010, 11:03:35 AM »
Spit16...no really

If you fly it right, its like any other plane, No HOs, no intentional rams.

Its all about the pilot and what he does with his aircraft.

If you fly it right you should be able to win 95% of 3v1s.

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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2010, 11:21:44 AM »
If you fly it right you should be able to win 95% of 3v1s.
same with k4
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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2010, 11:26:49 AM »
same with k4

True, but the amount of skill required to fly the k4 'right' is on the magnitude of double digits greater than that to fly the spit16 'right'.  I don't want to bash on the easiest plane in the game too much, but there's a reason it is eny 5 and there is a reason why all the noobs fly it.  I give british players a pass though, and also the american guys that wish they were english.   :aok

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Re: The dweeb from dweebistan
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2010, 11:27:49 AM »
If you have an E advantage to begin with, you are supremely patient, one of the three planes does not disengage and try to gain ALT.....

Forgot about the jugs... it is pretty cool to see the D11 land some that are not bomb strikes.  
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