Alaska F-22 MIA

[EskimoJoe]

Not much information yet, let's hope and pray he got lost and didn't go down.  

http://www.ktuu.com/news/ktuu-jber-says-f22-fighter-overdue-111710,0,4960192.story

I kindof chuckled when I read "one pilot aboard".. Still hoping the best for him/her  =/

[007Rusty]

 

[FiLtH]

  Lets hope he didnt fly too far west!!

[Reschke]

Kinda hard to believe in this day and age that a military aircraft could just disappear like that; especially one as high tech as the F-22. However it could be that the missing pilot was placed here long ago as a young boy and was a deep cover agent who was programmed to make his way into the US military and become the best possible one that he could and he executed a theft of equipment for the Russians to start tearing apart to find out our secrets.

BTW that was done in one of Dale Browns books about the Old Dog or something like that.

[rogwar]

Reschke I was just thinking of the same book. The name is Day of the Cheetah.

[ACE]

 

[oakranger]

Kinda hard to believe in this day and age that a military aircraft could just disappear like that; especially one as high tech as the F-22. However it could be that the missing pilot was placed here long ago as a young boy and was a deep cover agent who was programmed to make his way into the US military and become the best possible one that he could and he executed a theft of equipment for the Russians to start tearing apart to find out our secrets.

BTW that was done in one of Dale Browns books about the Old Dog or something like that.

Your not kidding.  How in the world could you loose and multi million dollar plane?

[Maverick]

Kinda hard to believe in this day and age that a military aircraft could just disappear like that; especially one as high tech as the F-22. However it could be that the missing pilot was placed here long ago as a young boy and was a deep cover agent who was programmed to make his way into the US military and become the best possible one that he could and he executed a theft of equipment for the Russians to start tearing apart to find out our secrets.

BTW that was done in one of Dale Browns books about the Old Dog or something like that.

You know even as a troll this is pretty much inappropriate.

You do realize that not all airspace is covered by radar from ground level up to a respectable height. There is a lot of open uninhabited area in Alaska as well.

[Serenity]

You know even as a troll this is pretty much inappropriate.

You do realize that not all airspace is covered by radar from ground level up to a respectable height. There is a lot of open uninhabited area in Alaska as well.

I'm not sure this is really a troll. It IS a possibility, in fact I'm somewhat surprised we haven't heard about it happening before. As tough as it would be to pull off and as fantastical as it may sound, it sounds like a pretty nifty trick.

I'm not saying that happened, or that it's even a likely thought, just that it is a remote possibility, and not necessarily a troll.

[Grayeagle]

comes under the heading 'stuff happens'
.. Engineer Scotty summed it up beautifully when he stated words to the effect:
The more complicated you make it, the easier it is to break it.

When I was part of 4th TFW we had an F4 disappear on an ACM flight.
Was actually seen by an airliner off the coast in a flyby
.. I do not remember all the particulars, seem to recall they found the backseater hitchhiking back to base,
..front seater disappeared with the aircraft.
Backseater stated they suffered a complete failure of instruments/nav
..they were trying to follow the airliner back to any kind of airfield when engines flamed out
..presumed to have gone down somewhere off the coast of South Carolina.

Just one of many instances that happened
.. they are all cutting edge dream machines built by the cheapest bidder.
Stuff very much happens.

I pray they find the pilot .. Alaska is still a very big place.

-GE aka Frank

[Reschke]

You know even as a troll this is pretty much inappropriate.

You do realize that not all airspace is covered by radar from ground level up to a respectable height. There is a lot of open uninhabited area in Alaska as well.

It wasn't a troll it was a possibility...btw if I wanted to troll for something it would be offshore in a large boat on the way to a great Red Snapper fishing spot.

I was thinking that with all the high tech stuff we have on these aircraft these days and all the satellites and other things that monitor all sorts of stuff that it would be pretty hard to have this just go missing.

Although I did have a buddy who was a RIO in an F-14 that just disappeared on the way back to the boat from a Bombcat mission in Afghanistan in late 2001 or early 2002.

[Ack-Ack]

Your not kidding.  How in the world could you loose and multi million dollar plane?

There are so many plane crashes in Alaska that will never be found, one of the most famous is the plane crash that happened in the '70s with some congressman aboard. 

ack-ack

[Babalonian]

I'm suspicious of this incident myself... that or very concerned for the pilot's health/safety atm.  Over friendly airspace aren't the F-22s supposed to have an IFF transponder running with ATC keeping track of them?  If it was a crash then they should have a pretty good idea of where the plane went down since it was supposed to be on friendly radar.  Sounds an aweful lot like a case of that F-22 not wanting to be found.  I also see that there is a good/fair possibility that the aircraft somehow lost all electronics and communications (including it's IFF), an unlucky lightning strike or something, and it maybe free-glided and crashed a good distance from it's last known position, but don't modern ejection seats come with their own emergency beacons and communication equipment?   The plane itself probabley has blackboxes and an emergency beacon on it too.

[AAJagerX]

I'm suspicious of this incident myself... that or very concerned for the pilot's health/safety atm.  Over friendly airspace aren't the F-22s supposed to have an IFF transponder running with ATC keeping track of them?  If it was a crash then they should have a pretty good idea of where the plane went down since it was supposed to be on friendly radar.  Sounds an aweful lot like a case of that F-22 not wanting to be found.  I also see that there is a good/fair possibility that the aircraft somehow lost all electronics and communications (including it's IFF), an unlucky lightning strike or something, and it maybe free-glided and crashed a good distance from it's last known position, but don't modern ejection seats come with their own emergency beacons and communication equipment?   The plane itself probabley has blackboxes and an emergency beacon on it too.

Yeah, with the redundant systems on these birds you'd think it'd be pretty easy to find after a crash.

[Maverick]

I don't believe there is an emergency beacon on the bird other than in the chute pack in the case of ejecting. A simple crash while doing NOE flight (it was a practice flight) would be below radar, if there is a radar covering that area, and would preclude any ejection beacon. There is also the possibility that the beacon had a dead battery or was simply defective to boot.

Had there been a defection, and I find that to be a very unlikely possibility, there wouldn't even be any news that a plane was missing at all. At least until the folks that have it decided to brag about it.