radar change again???????!!!!!!!!

[ROX]

65 feet....AGAIN?   After all the complaints it was returned to what it was before and your telling me it's been changed back to 65'?

By all means, let's impose a technology on a WWII game that they never had in WWII. 


Makes perfect (non)sense to me.

[james]

Won't be able to see for myself until Monday on this but, is it
expanded again to where it overlaps the enemy dar?

[SmokinLoon]

To my knowledge it is still 500 ft to produce a radar bar and 65ft to be seen inside the radar ring.

The diameter of the radar ring is still 22 miles (the smaller version), iirc.  I wont be able to verify any of the three settings until I get back home in a few days, but as of yesterday (Friday, Nov 19th), the settings had not changed for at least a month or two, give or take a week/10 days.

I think 500ft for dar bar and 65ft inside the dar ring are good settings.  Regardless, I wish HTC would publish the settings (or change in settings) with a arena message or a change log like they do with the version updates. 

[DREDIOCK]

Sounds like a REAL lot of "fighter" pilots I've encountered.

They would look down their nose and chastise the NOE guys while doing the exact same thing the NOE guys were doing.

The hypocrisy is almost funny.

Almost.

Like Who? And dont even consider placing me on that list Im not usually found with my own horde unless thee is "a" nothing else going on Or "b" that big darbar that looked like a decent fight when I first upped and then flew to, vanished.

I will abandon a fight once the odds get absurdly rediculous going in either direction. Being part of a horde gets old fast, so does being horded.

[DREDIOCK]

Just curious if people realize it is possible to fly under 65 feet.
Ya just have to be more careful about what your doing

[321BAR]

The M-18 has not christened this post yet

[groundfeeder]

well.........if you all think think the changes are for the good....wanna see the horde rule.... good luck...i wont be a part of it...combat has always been about ground acquisition..ALWAYS!...in game or real life...take away an objective....take away a reason to fight....simple as that.

If all you want is an even battle.. go to the DA, If all you want is war....leave the element of surprise intact..game will loose if u dont , i promise that. If the same people who are against it realise that they would be the first to die in REAL combat, they would switch to a different position rather quick.

Why do i say that????? All combat is about blinding the enemy first...if u don't ...u die.simple as that

if you want realism, in any sort or way....look at the TRUE radar configurations of the time. wont be nearly as liberal as it is now!!!!!!!!

lowering the dar has nothing to do with promoting combat.....it has everything to do with a SELECT few who cant stand loosing...........

[BrownBaron]

well.........if you all think think the changes are for the good....wanna see the horde rule.... good luck...i wont be a part of it...combat has always been about ground acquisition..ALWAYS!...in game or real life...take away an objective....take away a reason to fight....simple as that.

If all you want is an even battle.. go to the DA, If all you want is war....leave the element of surprise intact..game will loose if u dont , i promise that. If the same people who are against it realise that they would be the first to die in REAL combat, they would switch to a different position rather quick.

Why do i say that????? All combat is about blinding the enemy first...if u don't ...u die.simple as that
 
if you want realism, in any sort or way....look at the TRUE radar configurations of the time. wont be nearly as liberal as it is now!!!!!!!!

lowering the dar has nothing to do with promoting combat.....it has everything to do with a SELECT few who cant stand loosing...........

Judging by your OP, I think it is you who can not stand losing.  

Oh, and cartoon combat≠war

[CAP1]

wasn't there already a thread somewhere going over how in theory, no base could really be attacked by surprise/?

[R 105]

Hording is how you win. Ever hear of June 6th 1944 the original horde. Over whelming force in a concentrated area is how you win. It is the American way.

[oTRALFZo]

lowering the dar has nothing to do with promoting combat.....it has everything to do with a SELECT few who cant stand loosing...........

Look at this game as a community pool that you pay your 14.95 a mo in order to use it. You have a group of 20 guys that want to do their own thing, say frisbee football. Another couple guys that like to play Marco polo. Another couple of guys that just like to go to relax poolside.

 These guys in the big group choose to play frisbee football exclusive, not invite any others to join in, like it or not this big group of 20 (directly or indirectly) will interfere with the well being of the other guys that come for other reasons. They will take up space, get loud, splash water all over the place. In conclusion, create a tense enviroment. So why not try to be respectful and INVITE them to join in? Some might take up the invitation and join in on the fun and some just want to do their own thing and choose not too. Even if they choose not too, they can feel better knowing they had a choice in the matter.

The old system that promoted the classic NOE raid like it or not was being abused. It took a big chunk of people out of the fight. On the recieving end or giving end the result was bad. It is the classic cause of serious ENY problems and in the longterm really would of degraded the whole reason to why most log on in the first place.

Does this new system promote hording?..YES of course it does. But at least now EVERYONE has fair warning and given wait for it.... A CHOICE to engage.  Most battles I see now are still in favor of the guys who mounted the attack so I dont see any reason to cry about radar changes.

On another note, you mention guys that cant stand loosing? Loosing what?.the base? Again I must pound into the heads that NOT EVERYONE CARES ABOUT THE WAR. I like and respect the dynamics brought about in what makes people want to come together and duke it out. Basetaking provides a competetive urgency to want to fight, but also realize that it will get EXTREMLY boring very very quickly if you met that goal with absolutley no challenge what so ever. Furballers also recognize that we need those basetakers or they wouldnt have a real good reason to be there in the first place

[oTRALFZo]

Hording is how you win. Ever hear of June 6th 1944 the original horde. Over whelming force in a concentrated area is how you win. It is the American way.

YEP..how can I not agree with this statement?
Did you guys not remember in the speech Ike gave to the expedtionary force prior to the overlord operation?

You are about to embark on a great crusade, the eyes of the world are upon you. Whover goes down in the fight first please up a goon across the channel so Normandy can be ours.

[Delirium]

You are about to embark on a great crusade, the eyes of the world are upon you. Whover goes down in the fight first please up a goon across the channel so Normandy can be ours.

That is great!   

I hope you don't mind if I add that to my sig.

[The Fugitive]

You are about to embark on a great crusade, the eyes of the world are upon you. Whover goes down in the fight first please up a goon across the channel so Normandy can be ours.

I must have missed that quote in my history classes, but it sure does fit 

I don't agree that bases have to be taken by hordes. The problem is for too long the bestest easiest plan was to NOE with 25+ of your closest friends and sneak in and grab a base then clap each other on the back congratulating each on their "skill" at avoiding another fight but still grabbing the base.

Well ladies, it's time to use your imagination, time to make new plans, time to really get organized! You might have to up from 2 or 3 different bases. You might have to run high alt buffs and time their arrival to the other elements of your mission. DO the goons run high alt with the buffs??? or do they try to NOE from some odd out lying base. Do you use more GV's with the bombers, or only M3's or jeeps to carry the troops?

Gone are the days of popping dar and capturing the base in under 3 minutes. Time, effort, and just a bit of skill is what going to be needed now. If the groups refuse to change, and they stick to their hordes what do you think HTC may do then?

[Delirium]

If the groups refuse to change, and they stick to their hordes what do you think HTC may do then?

Zone ENY, hopefully.