radar change again???????!!!!!!!!

[DREDIOCK]

Zone ENY, hopefully.

I've been calling for base limits as opposed to ENY for years. After all. No base is able to support an infinite amount of planes at one time.

But your idea would work too. It wouldnt prevent people from upping where they wanted. Just in what. And it wouldnt prevent people from upping in what they wanted. just in where. You could still get to the horded base if you want in your super ride. It just going to take you longer to get there.

[kvuo75]

Why do i say that????? All combat is about blinding the enemy first...if u don't ...u die.simple as that

why dont you just send a suicide radar hero in to pork the radar first?

It's my new favorite thing.. sit in the tower and watch a p51 lawn dart on the radar.. its great! But HE GOT THE DAR with 2k and 6 rockets! 

[oTRALFZo]

Zone ENY, hopefully.

Great idea but if you look into it, can you imagine those armchair generals ranting that they cant up their spixteen because all you guys are in THEIR ZONE?

[bj229r]

That's why the base-limit idea Dred alluded to would better. If, say, 20 planes/gv's were alREADY up from THAT base, you'd have to grab your HO machine from the next closest base, or hope one of your countrymen dies, which is always fun

[4deck]

  Just do it

[Ghastly]

I've been calling for base limits as opposed to ENY for years. After all. No base is able to support an infinite amount of planes at one time.

But your idea would work too. It wouldnt prevent people from upping where they wanted. Just in what. And it wouldnt prevent people from upping in what they wanted. just in where. You could still get to the horded base if you want in your super ride. It just going to take you longer to get there.

I once played a WWII sim where they did that very thing.  Trust me, you don't want to go there.  We don't need the kind of griefing they had, where guys would up aircraft on a second account, fly out a ways and crash them to attrition the enemy airfield so that they wouldn't have aircraft.  And Lord in Heaven help the poor sap who'd crash a plane on takeoff - the screaming wailing and gnashing of teeth would reach a crescendo that made getting sucked through a jet engine preferable. 

<S>

[groundfeeder]

Thing is i never saw a post in here that criticized the old dar setting.....I only heard complaints about the hordes! HTC seems a bit mixed up......they regulate the dar, that we didnt have a problem with, and lower the deck so it PROMOTES the horde, what are u guys smokin?

I have no idea why they would do this, other than take more fun from the game. And oh yeah new arena settings how's that workin for you?

Already i find myself playing less and less. After 3 years of loving this game, and the flip-flopin of HTC ,I'm getting to the point it ain't worth it.

Why won't you respond HTC???? tell me why you keep doing this, and tell me who complained? simple question, just want an answer?

[BiPoLaR]

Thing is i never saw a post in here that criticized the old dar setting.....I only heard complaints about the hordes! HTC seems a bit mixed up......they regulate the dar, that we didnt have a problem with, and lower the deck so it PROMOTES the horde, what are u guys smokin?

I have no idea why they would do this, other than take more fun from the game. And oh yeah new arena settings how's that workin for you?

Already i find myself playing less and less. After 3 years of loving this game, and the flip-flopin of HTC ,I'm getting to the point it ain't worth it.

Why won't you respond HTC???? tell me why you keep doing this, and tell me who complained? simple question, just want an answer?

You cry too much     

[groundfeeder]

You cry too much     

Dear god man, you have got to be the worst of all every thread u reply to is a bad comment in some for or fashion

[Vadjan-Sama]

Not really, now they just bring 25+ guys to the undefended base instead.

Last night was a good example, it was also good exhibition of the longest PM rant by oDALLASo/vDALLAS.

omg.... that troll still alive?

[Soulyss]

Thing is i never saw a post in here that criticized the old dar setting.....I only heard complaints about the hordes! HTC seems a bit mixed up......they regulate the dar, that we didnt have a problem with, and lower the deck so it PROMOTES the horde, what are u guys smokin?

I have no idea why they would do this, other than take more fun from the game. And oh yeah new arena settings how's that workin for you?

Already i find myself playing less and less. After 3 years of loving this game, and the flip-flopin of HTC ,I'm getting to the point it ain't worth it.

Why won't you respond HTC???? tell me why you keep doing this, and tell me who complained? simple question, just want an answer?

I'll venture a couple guesses here... the problem wasn't the horde, even if it were a problem in HT's mind I'm not sure there's much he could do about it w/out drastic changes, the problem was that NOE became the norm rather than the exception and NOE by it's very nature doesn't promote cartoon combat.  I don't believe they see any difference in how that combat takes place whether it's a furball or a base capture attempt, fighting is fighting regardless of it's form and objective.

I would be surprised to see a response or explanation because most of these questions have been gone over before and people are going to believe what they want to believe regardless of what anyone at HTC says so there really isn't anything to be gained by further comment.   

[Ack-Ack]

I once played a WWII sim where they did that very thing.  Trust me, you don't want to go there.  We don't need the kind of griefing they had, where guys would up aircraft on a second account, fly out a ways and crash them to attrition the enemy airfield so that they wouldn't have aircraft.  And Lord in Heaven help the poor sap who'd crash a plane on takeoff - the screaming wailing and gnashing of teeth would reach a crescendo that made getting sucked through a jet engine preferable. 

<S>

At least with the AW zone limits, once someone was shot down it opened up a spot for that side.  The only way to keep your spot was to land your mission successfully and you'd be able to take off again.  Get shot down and you're in back of the line.

ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

the problem was that NOE became the norm rather than the exception and NOE by it's very nature doesn't promote cartoon combat. 
 

Which is why groundfeeder wants the old 'dar settings back, far easier for him to avoid the fight with the old system.  Whereas now he has to face the prospect of having to fight and that scares the beejeebus out of him.

ack-ack

[SPKmes]

I don't understand..NOE is still possible...yes it actually takes a little more skill to keep it under the height but I feel you think it is 65' from sea level....I thought it was 65' from ground level...however high that may be...so sure you can't raise up to 200' and hit auto but that shouldn't worry you as in another post you jump on the band wagon where a statement about the realism aspect of things is flung about.....
The biggest problem I find (and for all intensive purposes I haven't been here long)is lack of planning. Missions I used to go one had 2-3 components to them....one lot was straight out destruction...one lot was a little destruction quickly then cap..and sometimes there was a third component which was straight out fighter support.....implementing these three things to one objective allows for all types of game play in one place. There was also the other side where there would be a small group causing havoc at nearby bases. Yes there were big numbers in the missions but not the size there is now...and most of these are stragglers looking for easy kills.....The big thing with these was cohesion...the leaders knew what they wanted......
Yes the towns are a bit harder but if done right they can still easily fall. and to be quite honest huge numbers are not needed..just a good component of all areas.. I come from a small squad (fly lower number hours true but) and we have managed base takes with less attackers...we had good attackers granted but it is possible.

And to touch on the fact that you are loosing the fun aspect...is it because you want to take the map? or just bases? because as I see it, unless you can stay on 24/7 for 3-4 days you run the risk of not being a part of the map take in any case.

I do find the hordes hard myself..but then again I will continue to up from a field teeming with cons instead of upping from the base 1 sector over....

This could even become the mission for you and your lot...kill the base that horde is coming from...sure you will get some grief but then again some hordes do need to be stopped as they are just ..............  ......  .........   ..........
but you can have a laugh at their lack of for-site to defend their base as they go after that easy assist or two   

Hope all that makes some kind of sense...my fingers lack far behind what I'm thinking 
  just my little bit of no nonsensical logic <S>

[Shuffler]

The 80th simply flies in inverted. It confuses dar and it will not show you on map.

We recently installed giroblenders for this very reason.