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Offline Wayout

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Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« on: November 21, 2010, 07:31:43 AM »
Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45.  B29, F6F and F4U shoot down.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b4_1290249734

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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2010, 12:25:38 PM »
Interesting. Lots of film of crashed aircraft. Warning there are some bodies shown. No real footage of anything in the air except from the ground.
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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2010, 01:16:10 PM »
Wonder if the B-29s where shot down by flack or IJ ACs?
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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2010, 02:12:23 PM »
Very cool.  I thought the music worked well too. 

It's not so often that we see Allied aircraft in pieces on the ground as we see Axis aircraft aflame.  It really brings it home.
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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2010, 03:44:24 PM »
Quote from: oakranger on November 21, 2010, 01:16:10 PM
Wonder if the B-29s where shot down by flack or IJ ACs?
There has been a statistic bantied about over the years that 80% of all allied bomber losses in europe were a result of flak, ground fire.  I cant imagine why the bombing campaign against Japan would be much different.
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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2010, 03:45:51 PM »
Quote from: 68Hawk on November 21, 2010, 02:12:23 PM
Very cool.  I thought the music worked well too. 

It's not so often that we see Allied aircraft in pieces on the ground as we see Axis aircraft aflame.  It really brings it home.
There was a brief glimps of three dead US airmen in the B29 wreckage.  Stills fills me with a sense of tragic loss.  That is what war is.  A tragic loss.
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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2010, 05:02:16 PM »
When looking at the wreckage of the B-29, it looks like they just dropped out of the sky rather then diving or crash landing.
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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2010, 12:24:13 AM »
On another forum the Corsair experts identified the bellied in Corsair as one from the Essex.  The pilot was taken prisoner and despite numerous beatings, he did survive the war.  Went down to an ack hit in a fuel line.
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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2010, 02:11:38 AM »
According to Joe Baugher's site, B-29 42-24766 (500th BG) was rammed by an enemy fighter Jan 3, 1945.  MACR 10905.

Japanese newsreels site here:

http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/list.cgi
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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2010, 02:28:28 AM »
Quote from: Scherf on November 22, 2010, 02:11:38 AM
According to Joe Baugher's site, B-29 42-24766 (500th BG) was rammed by an enemy fighter Jan 3, 1945.  MACR 10905.

Japanese newsreels site here:

http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/list.cgi


All in Japanese!  Can't read.
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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2010, 02:34:22 AM »
Scroll down a bit and look on the left. Newsreels arranged by month and date.

"1940年6月（1～3号）" for example means Year 1940, Month 6 (June), Newsreels 1-3

Probably best to go to 1945, start in August and work backwards from there.
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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2010, 04:31:32 AM »
Hmmm, no August 1945, obvious reasons.

The film from 1 July 1945 features Ki-43s (ye Godz, Hayates at that point of the war...) and Raiden fighters, on the ground and flying shots:

http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/movie.cgi?das_id=D0001300382_00000&seg_number=001
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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2010, 04:43:56 AM »
June of 1945, torpedo planes take off to join the fight for Okinawa. Floatplanes search for US submarines:

http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/movie.cgi?das_id=D0001300381_00000&seg_number=002


Edit - Kamikaze aircraft take off from Kyushu for Okinawa, 600km distant.

http://cgi2.nhk.or.jp/shogenarchives/jpnews/movie.cgi?das_id=D0001300377_00000&seg_number=004




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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2010, 04:54:54 AM »
You'll see text to the right of the video - text is in a space same dimensions as the video. That is the transcript of the relevant newsreel.

Copy and paste that into Babel Fish web translator and you'll get a decent idea of what's being said.
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Re: Imperial Japanese Air Defence footage 1944-45
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2010, 07:56:03 AM »
Quote from: Guppy35 on November 22, 2010, 12:24:13 AM
On another forum the Corsair experts identified the bellied in Corsair as one from the Essex.  The pilot was taken prisoner and despite numerous beatings, he did survive the war.  Went down to an ack hit in a fuel line.

I can not image the fear he gone through.  Plane no longer flyable, will I survive the crash or not?! I am going down on main land Japan, will I survive the ordeal of POW or not?!
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