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Offline SKurj

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« Reply #45 on: September 04, 2001, 01:35:00 PM »
I'd agree with you -ammo- if i was a fur flyer.. I generally avoid the furball areas of the map like the plague...
Will say one thing though, I have been flyin in the morning (EST) and at that time quite a few PAC players are on feeding the national bird as it were +)  (don't blame em, yanks like US iron...)


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« Reply #46 on: September 04, 2001, 01:37:00 PM »
HTC will not perk anymore of the existing plane set...just a gut hunch on my part.

I don't know what to tell ya Urch...got to deal with it...the way I deal with it is hunt what I hate.

Heyas Rip...again, I don't think they'll perk any of these rides...tweak the FM perhaps, but no perking.

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« Reply #47 on: September 04, 2001, 01:45:00 PM »
Do you know why they perked the C-hog? (If you answer 'guns' you fail)

I would expect them to perk the N1K for the same reason if they are to be consistent in their software management decisions.

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« Reply #48 on: September 04, 2001, 01:54:00 PM »
As far as I know, they perked it because of its usage.  I'd rather see them unperk it, then the N1K2 drivers can go back to their first love.  

And rude- your cavalier attitude towards the N1K2 probably stems from the fact that you fly the P51D.  I know when I was flying the Dora the N1K2 didn't bother me because I could simply run from it.  Give the P38 or maybe the F6F a shot for a tour, see if you don't get tired of N1K2's then?

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« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2001, 02:03:00 PM »
I think all pilots have their "Achilles heal" planes. Mine is still the C-hawg. Dunno why, I just let it in range too much.

The N1K is usually just another kill for me. Granted, there are more of them in the arena. Don't get me wrong, I feel the same way about N1K drivers as I did spit9 drivers in warbirds 2 years ago. At that time, the spit9 was the owner of the arena. Everybody and their brother flew spit9's at that time. It was by far the easiest plane there. I remember posting a whine on AGW back then about the amazing ability of the spit 9, I got stackpiled for it too.  :D Whenever I killed a spit9 in my 109G, it was a triumph indeed. I carry the same attitude much of the time now, if I kill an N1K, I usually go back around and smoke his chute. Don't know why, it just feels right!   :p

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« Reply #50 on: September 04, 2001, 02:33:00 PM »
Amen HBLAIR! N1k chutes are yummy...even green ones!  :)

"If you answer 'guns' you fail"

Ermm.. if the answer was "it was flown too much in comparison of the other planes in the set AND because it was getting an obscene % of kills when compared with other planes" then it was a matter of popularity. Take a guess why it was popular? GUNS.

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« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2001, 02:33:00 PM »
Urchin....

Last tour I was 35-7 against the niki.

Now if you expect all planes to perform the same and are looking for a fair fight, well, your kidding yourself.

Life's not fair and the sooner you realize that the happier you'll be. :)

The pony has speed true, but it pales in many areas...I do not fight others on their terms...if they don't like it, thats just too bad.

It's amusing to me at best when folks complain about me not turn fighting them in their spitV....please.

Your destiny is in your own hands...to legislate change in an effort to achieve parity is just plain silly.

You sound like you believe anything which outperforms your ride should be perked...maybe I just misunderstood you eh? :D

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« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2001, 02:40:00 PM »
"I usually go back around and smoke his chute. Don't know why, it just feels right!

 Cod bless you sir. Another kindred spirit!

 I guess it's like giving the bum a kick in the arse to help 'em out the door after he's already been doubled over. Insult added to injury   :)

 My only regret is not having been able to do it more myself.

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« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2001, 03:07:00 PM »
Urchin,

The La7 has a good, instantaneous turn rate. Its sustained turn rate seems to me, to be about average.

It's roll rate is good at high speed. But it drops off fairly steeply with decreasing speed.

It's rate of climb isn't the best, as you mentioned.

It's speed is the best at about 5k. Any higher and it is soon outclassed. On the deck it is fastest, but is very closely followed by the P-51 and particularly the Dora.

It's range is appalling, and is probably the worst for any fighter in AH (maybe barring the Yak).

It has little ammo and even less if you don't know how to use it.

Lastly, its view out of the cockpit is the worst in AH, IMO.

I don't believe it will have the appeal of the N1K fraternity, should it be perked. Also, you don't have any authority to speak for the whole community regarding the '2nd best plane' in the set.

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« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2001, 04:07:00 PM »
I told you all... no one paid a lick of attention... nor did they acknowledge what I said... Of course though, I was wrong.

I mean, when the F4U-1C was perked I said that the next plane or planes with perceived (real or not) advantages over what you fly will be the next in the hunt.

Of course I was repeatedly told I was wrong and that wouldn't happen because perking the F4U-1C would diversify the arena.

Yes...... well I told you so.
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« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2001, 04:47:00 PM »
Well, it's at least nice to hear that HT mentioned in the arena that he wouldn't perk it...hopefully that was a real quote and in context.   :)

And of course the reason most flew the F4U-1C was the guns.  Why else would you fly that god aweful turd of an airplane???


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« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2001, 05:19:00 PM »
SOB my man, there is no real good reason to perk the N1K. Now maybe the KI-84 as a perk candidate, or maybe the A7M. However that would be left unseen. The N1K..even with the stats that urchin posted..still is not perk material. If someone liekto mix it up close with N1K's they get dead. If ya beat him with your strengths, no problem. Sometimes I juts go Hail mary andd dive in to a furball and pay the price by N1K's.
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« Reply #57 on: September 04, 2001, 05:19:00 PM »
Urchin,

Your K/D ration against the N1K2-J when in a Bf109G-10 or an Fw190D-9 should be heavily favorable.  If its not, you need to learn how to fly those aircraft better.  They are both much faster and much better at climbing.  You can dictate the terms of the fight to the N1K2.

The things that killed me most this in Tour 19:

P-51D/N1K2: 8 each
La-7: 6
PT Boat: 5
Spitfire MkIX/M16: 4 each

Of those I killed:

N1K2: 10
Spitfire MkIX: 7
La-7/P-51D: 5 each
PT Boat: 4
M16: 1

The F4U-1C was perked because it was getting about 20% of the kills each Tour.  If the N1K2 got about 11.5% of the kills in Tour 19 it doesn't even approach perking.

Personally, I think that the two best fighters in the MA right now are the La-7 and P-51D.  People are just addicted to turning.  But if they want a good K/D ration, they'd use an La-7 or P-51D.  They are both great rides.

Getting in a huff about the N1K2 having the most kills against you is silly.  N1K2s are the most common aircraft, hence they will usually have the most kills against a given person. Essentially when you say its the most common aircraft and then talk about what killed you most you are talking about the same thing from different angles.  Its one argument, not two.

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« Reply #58 on: September 04, 2001, 05:29:00 PM »
I'm with you, Swulfe. You didn't have to be Nostradomus to see where the perking thing would go...

You will always see people whining for planes to be perked. They will move right on down the line. Not their fault really, if they weren't whining about this it would be something else.

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« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2001, 06:51:00 PM »
I went 8 and 1 vs. the N1K2 in the Dora last tour.  I fairly sure I know how to fly the plane reasonably well.