Mustang Mk I

[catdaddy]

How about adding the mustang Mk I Allison engined, 4 hispano 20mm cannon equipped P-51. Actually faster than the "B" model on the deck.

[JOACH1M]

How about adding the mustang Mk I Allison engined, 4 hispano 20mm cannon equipped P-51. Actually faster than the "B" model on the deck.

I don't think it was called mk1 and it's been asked for. So I'd no

[redwing7]

Hope you have your flame retardant undies on.

[321BAR]

The P51VLR 20mm hispano bird and the P51A are totally different birds. The VLR was a poor A2A bird and was forced into ground attack role and even then the British preferred other birds over it. The P51A i wouldnt mind though even if it wouldnt be the best of fighters

[uptown]

we don't need no stinking cannons 

[minke]

Why would a mustang need cannons? surely makes it harder to run away.

[Ack-Ack]

The P51VLR 20mm hispano bird and the P51A are totally different birds. The VLR was a poor A2A bird and was forced into ground attack role and even then the British preferred other birds over it. The P51A i wouldnt mind though even if it wouldnt be the best of fighters

 

Ah man...Corky's P-51VLR thread snagged yet another one.  I thought he had pulled up his bait long ago but I guess he must have forgotten a hook in the water.

Anyway...the Mustang Mk Ia were the RAF 20mm cannon equipped Mustangs that were pretty much used in the Army co-operation role (i.e. ground support and intruder missions) and recce duties.

Okay...the P-51 VLR that Corky had posted about...it was a parody of Chalenge's wish to get larger drop tanks for the Mustang and all the wishes posted for a cannon equipped P-51.  In reality, the "VLR P-51s" were nothing more than P-51Ds used on VLR (Very Long Range) missions.  The VLR missions were primarily escort duties for the B-29 raids but as time wore on, the Japanese were less prone to engage the B-29 during the daylight raids and would avoid the Mustang escorts.  To counter this, the P-51Ds flew both escort and low altitude fighter sweeps, like the P-51Ds had done over Europe.

The P-51Ds would take off on their VLR missions from Iwo Jima, with flights lasting up to 8 hours as they flew to Japan and back.  The Iwo Mustangs weren't specially modified, didn't carry any special armament or cannons as they were just normal P-51Ds.

This is page is the history of the 506th Fighter Group and tells the story via pilot's comments of the first VLR raid by the Iwo P-51Ds.  It also tells the story of a banzai attack one of the 506th squadrons beat back.

506th FG - First VLR to Japan

This tells the history of the VLR missions.

VLR History

ack-ack

[Motherland]

P51VLR 20mm hispano

I remember that thread

[321BAR]

Ah man...Corky's P-51VLR thread snagged yet another one.  I thought he had pulled up his bait long ago but I guess he must have forgotten a hook in the water.

Anyway...the Mustang Mk Ia were the RAF 20mm cannon equipped Mustangs that were pretty much used in the Army co-operation role (i.e. ground support and intruder missions) and recce duties.

Okay...the P-51 VLR that Corky had posted about...it was a parody of Chalenge's wish to get larger drop tanks for the Mustang and all the wishes posted for a cannon equipped P-51.  In reality, the "VLR P-51s" were nothing more than P-51Ds used on VLR (Very Long Range) missions.  The VLR missions were primarily escort duties for the B-29 raids but as time wore on, the Japanese were less prone to engage the B-29 during the daylight raids and would avoid the Mustang escorts.  To counter this, the P-51Ds flew both escort and low altitude fighter sweeps, like the P-51Ds had done over Europe.

The P-51Ds would take off on their VLR missions from Iwo Jima, with flights lasting up to 8 hours as they flew to Japan and back.  The Iwo Mustangs weren't specially modified, didn't carry any special armament or cannons as they were just normal P-51Ds.

This is page is the history of the 506th Fighter Group and tells the story via pilot's comments of the first VLR raid by the Iwo P-51Ds.  It also tells the story of a banzai attack one of the 506th squadrons beat back.

506th FG - First VLR to Japan

This tells the history of the VLR missions.

VLR History

ack-ack

hey at least someone cleared it up for me <S> bud

[uptown]

Why would a mustang need cannons? surely makes it harder to extend.

fixed that for ya. 

[minke]

Why would a mustang need cannons? surely makes it harder to run away.

no, think i was right first time

 

[catdaddy]

I don't think it was called mk1 and it's been asked for. So I'd no

first clue here is the first three words......and I believe it's because you didn't look.

the first mustangs sold to great Britain under lend-lease was the Mk I four cannon armed rather than the original requested 2 fifties and 2 thirty caliber in each wing. the original purchase request was to be in accordance with the arms treaty that limited fighter armament, when germany tossed out the limitation and armed their fighters with 20mm cannon the British up-armed their own and the mustang Mk I's went to two 20mm per wing.
 
 The A-36 was the USAAF's first mustang and was equipped with dive brakes and reinforced hardpoints for bomb shackles that added weight and decreased the maneuverability.

[Ack-Ack]

I don't think it was called mk1 and it's been asked for. So I'd no

first clue here is the first three words......and I believe it's because you didn't look.

the first mustangs sold to great Britain under lend-lease was the Mk I four cannon armed rather than the original requested 2 fifties and 2 thirty caliber in each wing. the original purchase request was to be in accordance with the arms treaty that limited fighter armament, when germany tossed out the limitation and armed their fighters with 20mm cannon the British up-armed their own and the mustang Mk I's went to two 20mm per wing.
 
 The A-36 was the USAAF's first mustang and was equipped with dive brakes and reinforced hardpoints for bomb shackles that added weight and decreased the maneuverability.

As I mentioned in my previous post, the Hispano equipped RAF Mustangs were known as the Mustang Mk Ia, the Mustang Mk I (NA-73 and NA-83) were equipped with machine guns.


ack-ack

[AWwrgwy]

I don't think it was called mk1 and it's been asked for. So I'd no

first clue here is the first three words......and I believe it's because you didn't look.

the first mustangs sold to great Britain under lend-lease was the Mk I four cannon armed rather than the original requested 2 fifties and 2 thirty caliber in each wing. the original purchase request was to be in accordance with the arms treaty that limited fighter armament, when germany tossed out the limitation and armed their fighters with 20mm cannon the British up-armed their own and the mustang Mk I's went to two 20mm per wing.
 
 The A-36 was the USAAF's first mustang and was equipped with dive brakes and reinforced hardpoints for bomb shackles that added weight and decreased the maneuverability.

Wow.  It's the Washington Naval Treaty ported to aircraft.

 

The Washington Naval Treaty, also known as the Five-Power Treaty, limited the naval armaments of its five signatories: the United States of America, the British Empire, the Empire of Japan, the French Third Republic, and the Kingdom of Italy. The treaty was agreed at the Washington Naval Conference, which was held in Washington, D.C. from November 1921 to February 1922, and was signed by representatives of the treaty nations on 6 February 1922. It was an attempt to prevent a naval arms race that began after World War I.

Re-read Ack-Ack's post.

The P-51, called the Mustang I by the British, had 4 .50s and 4 .303s only.  No canunz.



wrongway

[MachFly]

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