Assange - leaks

[Motherland]

The problem as I see it is there is really no point in releasing the information other than "Look at me.  Look what I have".

He's not trying to right any wrongs, he just seems to be stirring the pot.

Everyone wants to be a Woodward and Bernstein.  Wikileaks isn't.


wrongway

I don't know if it's that so much as Wikileaks just doesn't filter anything- they just publish whatever gets leaked to them.

[Shuffler]

... but they are doing a woodstein, just in a much more scattergun way - amongst all the rubbish they have released direct evidence that the coalition's movers and shakers have been consistently lying about operations in afghanistan and iraq. lying to the same people that voted for them, the same people whose name they are waging these campaigns in and lying to the people who are paying for their interventionist adventures in terms of taxation and much more importantly in lost and broken lives.

whether you think this kind of foreign policy is a good or a bad idea is a judgement call, but we should at least be able to base our opinions on facts, not on lies.

exposing hypocrisy is one of the few genuinely usefuly functions journalism serves, and this qualifies in my book.

Wiki is not journalism.... it's just a threat to national security for any nation. I would call it a terrorist group since they thrive in assisting terrorism in any way possible.

[Rolex]

There were no shocking revelations. Everything is just as most people think it is: people in all counties who want to rule over others are corrupt, lying, sniveling little roaches who scurry for cover when the light goes on.

The world is a joke. The important things in life, like family and friends. They are all that matter. In the last moments of life, no one thinks about the "world" or politics.

[Vulcan]

Wiki is not journalism.... it's just a threat to national security for any nation. I would call it a terrorist group since they thrive in assisting terrorism in any way possible.

Comon, all they're doing is showing you the info the terrorists most likely already had last year. Do you really think wikileaks got exclusive access to this info?

[Ardy123]

Although I think the release of these documents are all about Assange's ego, and if it did anything at all, it may have potentially harmed the US and their troops, which isn't good. As it has been stated before, in an unintended way, Assange did us a favor, if its this easy for his organization to get the docs, imagine how easy it is for a potentially hostile foreign  government, or terrorist group. If anything, it will hopefully do 2 things...

1) encourage the US government to try harder at being secretive, unless it intended for these docs to get released...
2) maybe make politicians less inclined to make global lies costing thousands of lives because the fear that the could be called out and caught red handed by leaked documents that state the contrary.

[CptTrips]

I wouldn't stand too close to the guy in open spaces or near a window.

 

I hope he enjoys his 15 minutes.

[Ack-Ack]

this latest round of leaks actually kind of blows up in the face of Assange.  It is widely believed he released these latest documents to try and prevent what he thinks is an impending military action against Iran by the US by showing how the US is being driven by the Israelis to act.  The leaks instead show that the Arab countries are the ones that are by far the largest group trying to get the US to take immediate action and are more threatened by the prospect of a nuclear armed Iran and forcing a nuclear arms race than the Israelis are.  The leaks hav also showed that Iran has no intent on negotiating.  If anything, these leaks give more incentive to support military action to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons and that the Arabs (except Lebenon and Syria) would support the US 100%, heck, they'd even let Israel fly through their airspace if Israeli's were going to bomb the nuclear facilities.

ack-ack

[Babalonian]

this latest round of leaks actually kind of blows up in the face of Assange.  It is widely believed he released these latest documents to try and prevent what he thinks is an impending military action against Iran by the US by showing how the US is being driven by the Israelis to act.  The leaks instead show that the Arab countries are the ones that are by far the largest group trying to get the US to take immediate action and are more threatened by the prospect of a nuclear armed Iran and forcing a nuclear arms race than the Israelis are.  The leaks hav also showed that Iran has no intent on negotiating.  If anything, these leaks give more incentive to support military action to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons and that the Arabs (except Lebenon and Syria) would support the US 100%, heck, they'd even let Israel fly through their airspace if Israeli's were going to bomb the nuclear facilities.

ack-ack

Yeah, or the 19 nuclear warhead capable missiles delivered to Iran by NK, that really has me errked and wondering why we are letting them get away with that....  seems like a better reason (and more proof of it needing to be done) to go takeout a couple cans of trash than the poor excuse given to us over why we invaded Iraq.

[Perrine]

The world is a joke. The important things in life, like family and friends. They are all that matter. In the last moments of life, no one thinks about the "world" or politics.

word 

[Die Hard]

Wiki is not journalism.... it's just a threat to national security for any nation. I would call it a terrorist group since they thrive in assisting terrorism in any way possible.

Wikileaks is an international non-profit organisation owned by The Sunshine Press and administrated by hundreds of journalist from all over the world. Journalists who work at news media corporations all over the world, including America. The news media is the "fourth estate" of the modern democratic world and essential to keep governments transparent and honest.

If Wikileaks didn't exist the "whistle blower" would just have given the documents to another international news organisation like Reuters or AP. Kill the source, not the messenger.

[Perrine]

forget yesterday's leaks

this one is gonna be EXPLOSIVE!

[Ardy123]

forget yesterday's leaks

this one is gonna be EXPLOSIVE!

I think many people suspected this was going on, if its what we think it will contain, it will provide some 'proof' to all the financial-deregulation proponents, have forgotten the lessons learned from the early 1930s and the many violent economic swings prior.

[Perrine]

i hope this become real

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/249870
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11871641

[Ardy123]

i hope this become real

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/249870
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11871641

Yeah, I read that earlier today too. If china became our alley, wow that would be awesome.

[zack1234]

Apparently there is a leak about our forthcoming B29 and a grand piano for our WWI officers mess