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Offline Wolfala

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Assange - leaks
« on: November 28, 2010, 03:19:18 PM »
How is this guy still alive? If he'd done this to Russia or China we know that outcome and they'd be very unapologetic.
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Offline Motherland

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Re: Assange - leaks
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2010, 03:31:11 PM »
The diplomatic leaks? They're more entertaining than anything. I really can't imagine any really strain from it, from what I've seen it's high school gossip level stuff. Some of it's pretty good, actually.

'In late 2008 the Moscow embassy wired back about the relationship between Russia's president, Dmitry Medvedev and the prime minister, Vladimir Putin, remarking that Medvedev, officially the senior partner, "plays Robin to Putin's Batman". '



"da na na na
na na na na

PU-TIN!

Holy Gazprom, Putin! The evil Kasparov is on the loose!

To the Slavmobile, Medvedev!

da na na na
na na na na

PU-TIN!"
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Offline Perrine

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Re: Assange - leaks
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2010, 03:32:53 PM »
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Re: Assange - leaks
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2010, 03:36:02 PM »
another interesting story.....

Turkey is supporting terrorists in Iraq, while US is supporting what Turkey considers a terrorist organization (PPK?)
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Offline ramzey

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Re: Assange - leaks
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2010, 03:46:33 PM »
Quote from: Wolfala on November 28, 2010, 03:19:18 PM
How is this guy still alive? If he'd done this to Russia or China we know that outcome and they'd be very unapologetic.

Cuz killing him can't give US anything except bad press. He is just a puppet, documents will see daylight anyway. It's well played and aimed to weak value of $$$
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Offline Motherland

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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2010, 03:47:33 PM »
Quote from: Perrine on November 28, 2010, 03:36:02 PM
another interesting story.....

Turkey is supporting terrorists in Iraq, while US is supporting what Turkey considers a terrorist organization (PPK?)
PKK? (Kurdish Worker's Party)




Oppressed minority/Socialist organization, not exactly surprising that the US would support it. IIRC having a separate Kurdistan (of the Kurdish parts of Iraq) was considered (at least by Kurds) when Iraq was still in major trouble.
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Offline Vulcan

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Re: Assange - leaks
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2010, 05:30:32 PM »
Quote from: Wolfala on November 28, 2010, 03:19:18 PM
How is this guy still alive? If he'd done this to Russia or China we know that outcome and they'd be very unapologetic.

There apparently is quite a bit of russian stuff in there, some about putin, I don't think his chances of making it to Christmas are good.
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Offline warhed

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2010, 06:07:00 PM »
[ and quote author=Vulcan link=topic=301110.msg3859898#msg3859898 date=1290987032]
There apparently is quite a bit of russian stuff in there, some about putin, I don't think his chances of making it to Christmas are good.
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Correct, and Russian officials gave him some very stern warnings.  I'm absolutely amazed they haven't silenced him yet.  Last I heard he was seeking asylum in Switzerland. 
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Offline Die Hard

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Re: Assange - leaks
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2010, 07:39:15 PM »
My opinion on Assange and those that advocate his (un)timely death coincide with those expressed by this author:

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2010/11/17/does-julian-assange-deserve-to-die/
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Offline Ten60

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Re: Assange - leaks
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2010, 07:49:17 PM »
Perhaps, he's been given these documents by the government to make those wars look bad.
Perhaps, the authorization for this came from a higher source than some random dude at the DOD.
Perhaps, he should have done the decent thing and not put this crap out while our soldiers are deployed IN those areas.
Perhaps, he should just know better than to try and seek 'fame' in whistle blowing and told his 'source' to grow a pair and release them himself.

I don't think he should die, I just think he's a sh*&#y citizen.
Now the 'source' who did...  That's debatable.

People should think of the safety of our deployed troops and just hold their decent for when they are home.  Last thing one of our boys needs to see on the news is how people think he's a murderer and just a lapdog to a oil hungry nation.  Think he's gonna be able to focus on his safety and those around him with all those thoughts going through his head?  I sure wouldn't.
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2010, 07:59:53 PM »
He's not a US citizen...
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2010, 08:06:34 PM »
Quote from: Die Hard on November 28, 2010, 07:59:53 PM
He's not a US citizen...
Well then.  My answer doesn't change.  Why kill him?  He didn't leak it.  He shouldn't be a sh*%#y human...  lol.  Thanks for the correction.  I didn't bother paying attention to anything to do with him.
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Offline Perrine

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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2010, 08:52:01 PM »
story so far...

German Chancellor Angela Merkel = "Teflon" politician"

French President Nicolas Sarkozy = “emperor with no clothes"

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad = Hitler

Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai is "driven by paranoia"

also...

Putin wasn’t quite the strongman portrayed in the West — little hold over the huge and largely unaccountable, post-Soviet bureaucracy.

North Korea was able to smuggle 19 advanced, Russian-designed missiles, capable of delivering nuclear payloads... to Iran :eek:
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Offline Die Hard

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2010, 09:00:39 PM »
Quote from: Ten60 on November 28, 2010, 08:06:34 PM
Well then.  My answer doesn't change.  Why kill him?  He didn't leak it.  He shouldn't be a sh*%#y human...  lol.  Thanks for the correction.  I didn't bother paying attention to anything to do with him.

I agree. When did we last assassinate a journalist for spreading leaked information? Is that really a power we want in the hands of our government? If this information is embarrassing to our government who's at fault, the man who leaked it or the nitwits who created the embarrassing info in the first place? Kissingeresque realpolitik is inviable in the information age and it is about time we adapt.
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Re: Assange - leaks
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2010, 02:25:48 AM »
tbh assange is doing you a favour. If wikileaks got their hands on the info imagine who else has it. This asks big questions about your intelligence infrastrcures security (or total lack of).
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