This one should be an easy one. Ju88-G

[DREDIOCK]

How about one of the fighter variants of the Ju88?

The JU88-G

[Karnak]

I'd like to see more versions of the Ju88.

The Ju88C-6, Ju88G-7 and Ju188A would all make great additions to AH.

[Tupac]

I'd like to see more versions of the Ju88.

The Ju88C-6, Ju88G-7 and Ju188A would all make great additions to AH.

+1,000,000,000

[alpini13]

+1 great idea,throw the HE 177 a-5 in there too and your on to something
 

[Krusty]

Ju-88C at least has daytime action under its belt. The 88G was only ever a pure night fighter with full array of radar on its nose.

88C fits Aces High better.

jabo and anti-shipping after the 88C was phased out would better be handled by 100Gs (which we have) and then by Ju-188s and Me410s.

Other than being an interesting plane in WW2, it [the Ju88G] doesn't really fit how this game works.

[DREDIOCK]

The fact we dont have night is irrelevant to any reasoning we dont have a plane.
We have Lancasters And the majority of their missions were flown at night. Because we have players who are complete idiots when setting p their monitors correctly is the primary reason we no longer have night.
But thats another subject entirely

[Krusty]

The fact we dont have night is irrelevant to any reasoning we dont have a plane.

Wrong.

You take a game that's meant to portray night fighting... the night-time takeoffs, the following radio beacons and ground control directives, the waiting on station, the travelling at night via moon and stars, the silent black hunting of targets via blips on an oscilloscope, the patience, the waiting, then that brief split second before you're about to hit the target where you visually acquire it, fire your guns maybe once, and then turn to try and navigate your way (*deeeeep inhale*) all the way back to station to get ground control directions home, to try to find the field before having them turn some lights on so you can make an approach in through wooded areas and safely touch down again....

THAT is a game that has night fighters.

It's nothing at all like daytime sorties and the majority of WW2 combat was daytime combat.

It was very much a fair-weather war (hell, the bad weather held up the Normandy Invasion for weeks!).


So, you are wrong that role a plane held is not tied to the type of environment we have in AH.


EDIT: "Silent Hunter" is more like a night fighter game than Aces High will ever be.

[DREDIOCK]

Wrong.

You take a game that's meant to portray night fighting... the night-time takeoffs, the following radio beacons and ground control directives, the waiting on station, the travelling at night via moon and stars, the silent black hunting of targets via blips on an oscilloscope, the patience, the waiting, then that brief split second before you're about to hit the target where you visually acquire it, fire your guns maybe once, and then turn to try and navigate your way (*deeeeep inhale*) all the way back to station to get ground control directions home, to try to find the field before having them turn some lights on so you can make an approach in through wooded areas and safely touch down again....

THAT is a game that has night fighters.

It's nothing at all like daytime sorties and the majority of WW2 combat was daytime combat.

It was very much a fair-weather war (hell, the bad weather held up the Normandy Invasion for weeks!).


So, you are wrong that role a plane held is not tied to the type of environment we have in AH.


EDIT: "Silent Hunter" is more like a night fighter game than Aces High will ever be.

Nonsense. Night should not have to be a prerequisite  for having planes like the G or 61. It was not pitch black every night and they didnt fly all their sorties at night.
As is commonly pointed out "concessions are made for gameplay" That is one of the reasons why our current planes have radar thats even more advanced then the night fighters in question had.

I understand what your saying. And I myself wouldnt mind seeing more accuracy. But the current gameplay isnt anywhere near accurate with the planes we have now. In the name of "concessions for gameplay"
So your reasons for not having these night fighters while admirable. Given the inaccuracies, both built in and allowed by way of gameplay in the name of "concessions" Simply dont hold water as a legitimate argument for not having these planes.
Particularly since the main reason we dont have night is because some people refuse to set their monitors up correctly or refuse to believe theirs is set up incorrectly.

[Karnak]

While Krusty is broadly correct about night fighting being vastly different than day fighting, if off in some specifics (split second chance to fire?!?), I don't think that entirely matters when it comes to adding an aircraft.

Sure, Ju88Gs did the vast, vast majority of their work at night, but that doesn't mean people won't have fun trying to use them as day fighters.  P-61s and Mosquito NF.Mk 30s both did quite a bit of daytime work as well as night time work.

Basically, I want to see some of those Mosquito FB.Mk VI/Beaufighter vs Ju88 fighter dogfights that happened in Norway (during daylight hours) and that isn't going to happen by using the Bf110 as a placeholder.

[warphoenix]

+1 the JU-88G was a hell of a bomber buster, and I'd like to try that out, as well as shoot the heck out of a Mossie

[DREDIOCK]

While Krusty is broadly correct about night fighting being vastly different than day fighting, if off in some specifics (split second chance to fire?!?), I don't think that entirely matters when it comes to adding an aircraft.

Sure, Ju88Gs did the vast, vast majority of their work at night, but that doesn't mean people won't have fun trying to use them as day fighters.  P-61s and Mosquito NF.Mk 30s both did quite a bit of daytime work as well as night time work.

Basically, I want to see some of those Mosquito FB.Mk VI/Beaufighter vs Ju88 fighter dogfights that happened in Norway (during daylight hours) and that isn't going to happen by using the Bf110 as a placeholder.

Again. the lack of night though is irrelevant as we have all sorts of concessions made for game play. B-17s that do loop de loops. Divebombing 17's and lancasters (regularly)
Lancasters doing bombing runs in daylight hours when the vast majority of their missions were done at night.
(According to his logic. we shouldnt even have lancs in game for simply that reason.)
Planes with better then  current modern avionics type radar. To add the 88G and insitute the kind of radar it had would mean it wouldnt even have as good of a radar array as every other plane in game has. you would actually have to dumb down the radar.
And an entire plethora of other concessions. Which make not having night as a reason to not have these planes a rather ridiculous one. To put it mildly.

[beau32]

the G-6 series played an important role in night and day time ground attack in 1945 on the Ost and Western fronts. On those ground attack flights many times the radar aerials were removed as they were not needed. Saying the 88G was used for only night figher ops is complete nonsence. It would be a perfect add-on to this game, and wouldnt be hard to convert the Ju-88 we have now.

[fbWldcat]

JU-88 is probably one of my favorite planes in the game, it'd be great to have more to pick from.    

Oops, forgot to add this
+1
There we go.

[cooldued]

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[BigKev03]

Any Ju88 addition is fine with me.  I am back on my Ju88 dive bombing kick lately and I love to dive bomb in that thing.

BigKev