you realize this thread had become beyond stupid.... a bunch of top sticks arguing who are the top sticks.....
Its like if Warren Buffet and Bill Gates got into an argument about being rich...
I'm not rich, I only have 35 billion, you have 50 billion. No, the Carols Helu is the has more than you... you just like to sling your 50 billion in front of the press with your foundation...
psst,, your all fluff'n good, who cares who thinks who is 'better', its meaningless. When your very good, its more about who misses the first shot than anything else.