Author Topic: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.  (Read 7289 times)

Offline Yeager

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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2010, 06:40:04 PM »
The tank game in AH is plain and simply weak.  Panzer Commander from 1998 is far more immersive challenging and believable than the AH ground game we have today and Panzer Elite from 1999 is miles ahead of Panzer Commander.  Steel Beasts from 2006 would be my choice for modeling the physics of a ground vehicle and for the ballistics and damage modeling.  To this day SB is the best tank warfare simulation going.

Having said that: HTC could seriously improve the overall tank/GV esperience if they wished, but doing so would require a complete overhaul of the ground aspect of the game.  I would welcome it completely.  I love simulated tank combat.

I have to add that the latest GV additions are beautful to look at, and the interiors of the GVs have come a long way.
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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2010, 06:40:52 PM »
but....but...bombing tanks is what bombs are for.... I dont see how bombing civillians could be more honourable.



Exactly.  Or should bombs only be used on cartoon buildings?  GVs are player controlled and therefore far more fun to blow up.  :x

Planes attacking tanks is the new vulching/milk running/wussie-scoring move.

Don't give a rat's bellybutton about score but have always enjoyed blowing up vehicles.  It's good clean fun.  :aok
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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2010, 06:46:48 PM »
I actually takes a bit of skill to get a bomb right in the place it needs to be. Plus if it is only a partial hit, you guys COULD have Vehicle Supps. That's all I'm saying.

Agreed :aok, but you can also try my method; Guys that carry bombs to kill GVs are easy prey for fighters that up and hunt guys with bombs that are hunting things on the ground. Cruel circle of life guys
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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2010, 06:55:53 PM »
You are camping a spawn point and complaining about getting killed by an aircraft?

Okee doke. :aok

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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2010, 06:56:12 PM »
Hah, I GV hunt in 234's. Its sooooo much fun!  :devil
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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2010, 07:03:48 PM »

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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2010, 07:10:31 PM »
This sim/game is no different than a chess game.  Regardless of which piece you are, something else can trump you.  

So when a tank shoots and destroys a FLAK/M16 and not another tank, is it cheap?  

When in bombers take a fighter escort.  When in a tank take an FLAK/M16 buddy.  Regardless of which piece you are, you can be trumped.

Fighters (light) are no good vs tanks (perhaps minimally, but more of a nuisance).  Bombers are not good at air to air ventures.  Ground attack aircraft, while heavy, are not good at air to air generally speaking.  Tanks are good at destroying ground targets, but are hardly worth mentioning when dealing with air threats.  Etc Etc Etc....

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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2010, 07:20:21 PM »
honorable-NO, more fun-maybe  :aok

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Another thing I think you are missing Vinkman....M4's and T34's can be used as anti-air platforms with balistic ranges of up to 3k at least. This effectively makes them the biggest threat in the area. If they stop shooting at planes the planes might stop bombing...no...wait actualy we would keep bombing GVs it's part of the benefit of flying your weapon around the place instead of rolling along the floor.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2010, 07:23:48 PM by mechanic »
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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2010, 08:00:05 PM »
vinkman.. does IL2 / HurriD count as lame also?  :rolleyes:

I cant even remember the last tank I bombed.. I quite enjoy killing them with IL2 37mm though.. 

if we aren't supposed to kill tanks with the AP guns on the IL2 and Hurricane D, wtf are they supposed to be used for?
 

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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2010, 08:02:49 PM »
You think this is a war? PUH-leeze  :rolleyes:

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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2010, 08:11:48 PM »
No tanks rolling onto an airbase either.

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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2010, 08:56:10 PM »
No tanks rolling onto an airbase either.
Oh come on, I was just visiting! :D

.. I quite enjoy killing them with IL2 37mm though..
I enjoy Hoing planes withmy tank. :devil
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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2010, 09:09:29 PM »
Why should we have to go to another arena when we can battle in the MA?? I've heard this before and still think its the the worst suggestion I've ever heard to solve this problem.


just responding to the original topic by Vinkman

"Of course the usual disclaimers apply. I'm not talking about tanks trying to take a base, and I'm talking about tanks camping a spawn. Those deserve a good bombing. But to fly out to the open spaces where tanks are trying to stalk each other and fight it out and drop bombs on a defenseless enemy who has invested his time in having a tank battle, makes you a jerk"


I've gone to the DA and had great tank battles.

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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2010, 09:15:23 PM »

I've gone to the DA and had great tank battles.
Yes because there's always so many people GV'ing in there  :rolleyes:
Everyone is already in the MA and when needed can leave the GV battle to help elsewhere. If we have to go off to another arena, we obviously wouldn't be able to help in the MA.

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Re: Plane vs tank. No contest so don't do it.
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2010, 09:19:54 PM »
The tank game in AH is plain and simply weak. 

Having said that: HTC could seriously improve the overall tank/GV esperience if they wished, but doing so would require a complete overhaul of the ground aspect of the game.  I would welcome it completely.  I love simulated tank combat.

I have to add that the latest GV additions are beautful to look at, and the interiors of the GVs have come a long way.

Agree completely! Particularly with the perpetual whack a mole spawn camping. THE primary reason but not the only reason. I dont bother with the GV game much anymore cept on rare occasion and then only for a little while
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