PCI SSD vs SATA 3

[Denholm]

Love the results TilDeath.

[Spite]

Pretty good hardware review on the RevoDrive X2 just released:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/ocz-revodrive-x2-240gb-review/1

[whels]

I have 1 of these otw, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227590

anything special i should do?  It will be my boot drive, probably dual-boot XP/Win7. current hD will
be my data drive. should i put my programs on the SSD or HD? Will i need to format the SSD or
should it be ready to go?

Whels

[TilDeath]

I have 1 of these otw, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227590

anything special i should do?  It will be my boot drive, probably dual-boot XP/Win7. current hD will
be my data drive. should i put my programs on the SSD or HD? Will i need to format the SSD or
should it be ready to go?

Whels

This is not a PCIe SSD, it is a SATA.  Make sure you disable the Defrag and other hard drive checking / re-writing to add longevity to your SSD.

TD

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I can't believe nobody already mentioned this but Tildeaths comparison is apples to oranges. That or the comparison is poorly titled.

You can only compare 'pci-e' and 'sata3' using two SSD's that are comparative in performance and use the respective connections.

This comparison only magnifies the superiority of SSD's in general against regular harddrives.

[TilDeath]

I can't believe nobody already mentioned this but Tildeaths comparison is apples to oranges. That or the comparison is poorly titled.

You can only compare 'pci-e' and 'sata3' using two SSD's that are comparative in performance and use the respective connections.

This comparison only magnifies the superiority of SSD's in general against regular harddrives.

LOL How is it poorly titled?  PCI SSD vs SATA3....  It shows what technology and the results between the two.

TD

[MrRiplEy[H]]

LOL How is it poorly titled?  PCI SSD vs SATA3....  It shows what technology and the results between the two.

TD

No, it shows PCI-E SSD vs SATA3 HDD. If you wanted to compare SSD vs HDD or PCI-E vs SATA3 you should do it directly, now you mix interfaces and drive technology which both impact performance in a serious way. A non-raided SSD crushes a HDD already on a similar bus and a PCI-E SSD with internal raid0 + 2 controllers increases the separation even higher. When comparing a PCI-E internal-raid 0 SSD to a SATA3 RAID 0 SSD your margin would diminish considerably. Oh, and be a fair comparison also

Hence my comment on the poor titling.

[TilDeath]

I give up... thought I would show my findings of two technologies, but all I get is complaints. 

[Bino]

TD, thanks for your posts.  Please ignore the nit-pickers.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I give up... thought I would show my findings of two technologies, but all I get is complaints. 

Don't give up, I was just suggesting to be more precise on your comparison. This time you happened to compare apples to oranges if your title was correct.

[Krusty]

Ripley, I think you're nitpicking. I don't think such a distinction is necessary. It's kind of self-evident in the subject line of the thread.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Ripley, I think you're nitpicking. I don't think such a distinction is necessary. It's kind of self-evident in the subject line of the thread.

Self evident? Please explain. You think it's self evident that a 'SATA3' must be a non-raided hdd? Or what do you mean?

You do realize that a theoretical 10 drive C300 SSD array running raid0 on a SATA3 interface would most likely be a lot faster than a lone revo x2? Hmm.. does that mean that obviously SATA3 is now superior to PCI-E? And do note the  I'm not bashing anyone, just bringing a point.

[Krusty]

Because this was the very first line that he typed:

Benched a PCIe SSD (OCZ RevoDRIVE-2 240GB) against a SATA-3 (Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 64mb cache).

Plain english to me. I understand that a Western Digital Caviar Black is a single drive and not a RAID. I further understand that the RevoDrive is technically 1 drive but gains its speed by nature of a RAID array. This also comes out in his following text.


I don't think it needs to be spelled out. If any one person has trouble with it let them reply and state "Can you clarify what you mean by <fill in the blank>?" and an answer will no doubt be forthcoming.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Because this was the very first line that he typed:

Plain english to me. I understand that a Western Digital Caviar Black is a single drive and not a RAID. I further understand that the RevoDrive is technically 1 drive but gains its speed by nature of a RAID array. This also comes out in his following text.


I don't think it needs to be spelled out. If any one person has trouble with it let them reply and state "Can you clarify what you mean by <fill in the blank>?" and an answer will no doubt be forthcoming.

And I was pointing out that either he is comparing apples to oranges or he has a poor title. Which lead to this discussion. I'll title a thread 'A motorcycle engine with NOS compared to a V8'. For the sake of argument I'll state that the findings of my testings have been that a Hayabusa engine with NOS is far superior to a V8 that happened to be naturally aspirated and stuck on a heavy SUV lol. 

What are we comparing? NOS with no NOS? Turbo vs non-turbo? Motorcycle engine vs V8? Vehicle weight? Year, make or model?

[skribetm]

td was just showing the pci-e card as a viable solution for system builds as compared to a sata ssd.
my post thereafter should have clarified it already; that ssd's can be raid'd too, but wouldnt be as cheap.
so i think everyone reading this thread, despite the title, would already know the difference.